Quon among 19 Canada call-ups for USA game

Jeff Kassouf May 22, 2013 142
Rachel Quon

Rachel Quon played for U.S. youth teams, but has been called into the Canadian senior team for its June 2 match vs. the United States.

Canada coach John Herdman has named his 19-woman roster for the June 2 match against the United States in Toronto, and it notably includes the first-ever Canadian call-up for Chicago Red Stars defender Rachel Quon, who has played for the U.S. U-20 and U-23 teams.

The roster also marks the return of Melissa Tancredi, who took the spring off to go back to school.

Of the 19 players called in, 14 were part of the Canadian Olympic team that won the bronze medal at the 2012 London Olympics. The roster includes a pair of players — Kadeisha Buchanan and Ashley Lawrence — who will be incoming freshman at West Virginia University in the fall.

“It was important for us to bring in a blend of youth and experience for this game,” Herdman said.

The United States named its roster for the match on Tuesday. Click here for the full U.S. roster. The U.S. own a commanding 44-3-5 all-time record vs. Canada, including the epic 4-3 Olympic semifinal victory in extra time last year that has left this June 2 game designated simply as “The Rematch.”

Canada’s June 2 roster vs. the United States:

GK- Karina LeBlanc | USA / Portland Thorns FC
GK- Erin McLeod | USA / Chicago Red Stars
D- Kadeisha Buchanan | USA / West Virginia University*
D- Robyn Gayle | USA / Washington Spirit
D- Carmelina Moscato | USA / Chicago Red Stars
D- Rachel Quon | USA / Chicago Red Stars
D- Lauren Sesselmann | USA / FC Kansas City
D- Kylla Sjoman | GER / Herford SV
D- Rhian Wilkinson | USA / Boston Breakers
D- Emily Zurrer | USA / Seattle Reign FC
M- Kaylyn Kyle | USA / Seattle Reign FC
M- Ashley Lawrence | USA / West Virginia University*
M- Diana Matheson | USA / Washington Spirit
M- Sophie Schmidt | USA / Sky Blue FC
M- Desiree Scott | USA / FC Kansas City
F- Tiffany Cameron | USA / Seattle Reign FC
F- Christina Julien | RUS / WFC Rossiyanka
F- Christine Sinclair | USA / Portland Thorns FC
F- Melissa Tancredi | unattached

* – Player to join NCAA team in Fall 2013

  • Elaine

    Oh my, Herdman is SERIOUS about this rematch (putting Tanc on the roster). This game will be a rematch like no other. Wonder if Carli, KO, and Abby will remember what happened to them the last time. The refs better take control of this game from the start. Tom, time to bring your A-game. I don’t care about giving the newbies experience for this one. i just want to wipe that smirk from Herdman’s face once and for all.

    • Wear Nikes Drink Gatorade

      I wonder how useful Tancredi will be, seeing that she has been busy getting that phrenology degree and what not.

    • Wear Nikes Drink Gatorade

      I wonder how useful Tancredi will be, seeing that she has been busy getting that phrenology degree and what not.

      • Elaine

        Well, we know she’s good at stomping on people’s head, elbowing others in the neck, and body slamming. As far as playing soccer, I don’t even know if she has played a single game since the Olympics.

        • Don B.

          “Sorry about that elbow, you OK? Oh, by the way, here’s my card.”

          • Elaine

            Pass that card to Abby if you will.

    • Keithustus

      You are really serious about this thing, aren’t you? You know it’s a friendly, right? Maybe if your team gets to a semifinal again sometime, how about this year’s Algarve Cup? Oh, you don’t play in those? Pity.

      • http://twitter.com/epang0710 Elaine

        Tell that to Herdman. Algarve is over and done, check your info before posting.

        • Keithustus

          I’m referring to Canada’s not being involved in any Algarves since 2003. Maybe you should check your info before posting.

          • Elaine

            “Maybe if your team gets to a semifinal again sometime”, wait, my team is the USA, what’s yours?

          • Keithustus

            Ah-ha wonderful. It could be reasonably implied from most of your original post that you’re a Canadian drawing for blood. Silly me, I didn’t carefully read your countering final sentence.

          • Elaine

            It’s all cool, then.

        • Steglitz49

          Canada does not play in the Algarve cup. They play in the Cyprus cup. Canada lost to England in the final.

          • Elaine

            I know that Steg, that’s for the info anyways.

          • Steglitz49

            I thought that you were meant to tell things to the Marines, not the Mounties …

      • Steglitz49

        The Algarve cup does not have a semifinal.

        • Keithustus

          I didn’t say Algarve semifinal. In context, I’m referring to either a WWC or Olympic semifinal, of which I think the team has not reached save London.

  • Elaine

    Oh my, Herdman is SERIOUS about this rematch (putting Tanc on the roster). This game will be a rematch like no other. Wonder if Carli, KO, and Abby will remember what happened to them the last time. The refs better take control of this game from the start. Tom, time to bring your A-game. I don’t care about giving the newbies experience for this one. i just want to wipe that smirk from Herdman’s face once and for all.

  • Celia

    Traitor!

    • Steglitz49

      Are you referring to a certain “American” player?

      • Celia

        Well Syd moved to the US when she was 14. So her situation was different.
        Syd is not even a full time starter yet. Goes to show how hard it is to make the US team.

        • Steglitz49

          An Olympic gold is an Olympic gold.

          • Celia

            Yup. Something Quon will never touch.

            joke.

          • Steglitz49

            On the other hand, she might win the World Cup, which is the summit of soccer endeavor (since 1948).

          • Celia

            They have to get out of the group stage for that to happen.

  • Whatw

    Give me details how quon was eligible. Not happy.

    • Steglitz49

      Jackie Charlton pioneered the principle that as long as your grandmother’s pet was an Irish wolf-hound, you were eligible to play for Ireland.

      Maybe a certain American olympic gold-medalist can explain the ins and outs to you?

    • Anton

      She had to be either born in Canada or has a Canadian parent.

      • Steglitz49

        I think that grandparent is enough and maybe if her grandma kept a Malamute she might be OK.

        • Anton

          I don’t think a grandparent is enough.

          For example to be eligible for the U.S. I think you have to:
          1. Be born in the U.S.
          2. Have an American parent
          3. If both your parents are immigrants, they need to be citizens

          • Steglitz49

            You forgot about the family pet …

          • Anton

            Don’t know how I let that slip…..I wonder if Quon’s parents have an English terrier and she’s eligible for England too.

          • Steglitz49

            A corgi, surely, a corgi.

          • NYRick

            Nice!

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you.

            (otoh let’s not press the issue too hard …)

          • NYRick

            Very imPRESSive word play there.

          • Steglitz49

            Hopefully the American lasses on the field in Toronto will not be repressed and leave their fans depressed … something like that.

            Do you know who the ref will be? Someone from the UAE, perhaps?

          • NYRick

            I’m really hoping the US squad can IRON out their midfield problems. It also seems our favorite player may have added a new WRINKLE to her game. It is sad that I’m so HUNG UP on a player, but I’m afraid my devotion is PERMANENT.

            As for the ref, it will probably be the clown who red carded Nani at OT in the CL Man Utd-Madrid match.

          • Steglitz49

            Maybe one could auction the refereeing slot for charity?

          • Steglitz49

            Is there a Woldemort anagram and rebus hiding in there? I seem to be missing the wood for the trees.

          • Anton

            It’s clearly going to be Pedersen.

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            Many countries accept a grandparent as qualifying you for citizenship.

            A quick look at the Canadian rules shows that one parent need to be a Canadian citizen to pass it on by descent.

            It’s even possible to get US citizenship passed down by a grandparent, but it has to be done before age 18.

    • http://partdeuxphoto.tumblr.com/ Meg Linehan

      FIFA eligibility rules: Article 17, use your imagination with the pronouns:

      Any Player who … [assumes] a new nationality and who has not played international football [in a match … in an official competition of any category or any type of football for one Association] shall be eligible to play for the new representative team only if he fulfills one of the following conditions:
      (a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
      (b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
      (c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
      (d) He has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association.

      • stephy_paola

        According to D, if anyone moves here from a different country and lives here for at least 5 years can play for the NT without having to be a citizen?

        • http://partdeuxphoto.tumblr.com/ Meg Linehan

          Yes, but I think they also can’t previously have played for any other country at the senior level…

          (FIFA regulations are not my strong point.)

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            I’m pretty sure you can’t have played in a youth competition (rather than friendly) unless you already possessed the other citizenship at the time (often through parents or grandparents — assumed a citizen even if never got the passport).

            At the senior level, you can’t have played in a competition (again, not friendlies). Once you do, you are tied to that country forever (at least under current rules).

          • WhatW

            Thanks as usual, but which rule applied to her? Pretty interesting to find out, especially if it was her grandparents. How often is the grandparent switch been used, I doubt very much.

          • stephy_paola

            WOW …

        • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

          No. Citizen rules are separate. These are the minimum requirements. Some countries give out new citizenship almost automatically if an athlete is involved. This rule was put in to place to stop every struggling country from fielding 11 Brazilians (at least on the men’s side).

          If you do move to another country and become a citizen, then you are fine.

  • kernel_thai

    Im not sure Sermanni takes it as seriously as Herdman will (ie no Megan Rapinoe). This game means a lot more for Canada than it does for the US. Of course the players and the fans will take it seriously. I expect Sermanni will use all six subs and continue building a team for Canada 2015 not “the rematch” 2013.

    • Steglitz49

      As far as I understand it, Lyon are under no obligation to release Ms Rapinoe for this match.

      • vert2013

        It’s during FIFA dates, if she’d been called in they would have had to release her. It’s a friendly though, there’s no point to take her away from coupe de france training for a friendly when we have a team as deep as ours.

  • kernel_thai

    This is from a CBCsport article
    “Coach John Herdman says she has a family connection that allows her to
    play for Canada and has accepted the invitation, although FIFA must
    still grant final approval.”

    • http://twitter.com/JennySoccerFan JennyNWSL

      Through her father, though the details are sketchy. FIFA will sort it.

  • Anton

    Canada is so desperate to make this a rivalry. Billing a friendly in the beginning of June as ‘the rematch’ to an Olympic Semifinal? Lulz.

    • Steglitz49

      They want to fill the stadium with spectators, don’t they?

      • Celia

        I heard they gave away tickets just to fill the stadium.

        • Steglitz49

          Bayern Munich’s ladies average 340 at home …

        • http://partdeuxphoto.tumblr.com/ Meg Linehan

          The tickets to this game sold out in a few hours. I don’t think they needed freebies.

        • dgrollins

          This is simply not true. The game sold out in 4-hours. The cheapest tickets available off-market are going for $199: http://www.stubhub.com/canada-national-soccer-team-tickets/4259506/

    • http://twitter.com/JennySoccerFan JennyNWSL

      Everything involving Americans is a rivalry for Canada. It’s coded into the national identity, as is the fact that most Americans are completely oblivious to it, which of course nettles Canadians even more. Oh yes, they’ll bring their ‘A’ game. It has far more to do with pride than attendance.

  • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

    Seems at least one Canadian is not happy that Quon has joined the CWNT. And he still dislikes Syd.

    http://www.maple-leaf-forever.com/2013/05/22/the-rachel-quon-quandry/

    • Wear Nikes Drink Gatorade

      That same guy got into some sort of online fight with Sydney Leroux. A link to her response (I can’t post it here):
      https://twitter.com/sydneyleroux/status/208033910347665410

    • http://twitter.com/hercircumstance hercircumstance

      I feel uncomfortable agreeing with him on some points because in every other aspect he seems like a complete tool. I’m going to forget this happened. :(

    • Keithustus

      Quite a read. I thought they didn’t allow people like that in Canada? He belongs on our side of the border.

  • Steglitz49

    Kylla Sjoman is an interesting lass. She has played for Ottawa and the celebrated Doncaster Belles. Now she plays for a German team that from time to time plays in the Bundesliga though not currently. Apparently, Kylla was also eligible to play for Finland but has thrown her lot in with Canada.

    Jackie Charlton casts a long shadow in soccer, not just on account of his height.

  • Steglitz49

    The squad is worth considering on its own merits, not just who should be flogged in public.

    All play in north-America apart from one lass, who is in Russia having previously played in Sweden, and another in Germany. The manager has not called up Stephanie Labbé, for example.

    Provided the referee will be up to the task that lies ahead all should be well and we should have a cracking game. Do we know who will take charge?

    • http://twitter.com/JennySoccerFan JennyNWSL

      I think Canada has ruled out Norwegians.

      • Steglitz49

        How about a Norwegian Elkhound in charge? Failing that, maybe Petter Northug?

  • NYRick

    Anyone know what happened to Rutgers Jonelle Filignio? I think she still may be a senior in college but was on the Canada Olympic roster. I thought she was a rising star in their program. Is she injured?

  • Terry Lash

    I do not see any reason not to respect Quon’s decision. She is a good player, but may have decided that being a starter in Canada is more likely than being a starter on the US team. And, there is nothing wrong with that. She should be treated without rancor or criticism for her choice.

    • Celia

      Please tell that to people who still hate Sydney Leroux for her decision.

      • http://www.facebook.com/forge.dias Forge Dias

        Did the US really need Sydney Leroux? No, did Canada need Syd? Yes she was the next generation that was going to come in when Sinclair retired. The USNT has huge depth at the forward position, the CNT doesn’t. They still haven’t found a player with Syd’s ability. So can you blame Canadians for being a bit angry for Syd joining an already powerhouse and leaving them out to dry? I don’t, Syd deals with it and so should you.

        • Celia

          No.

      • Anton

        I don’t blame Canadians for hating Sydney, she’s their Giuseppe Rossi. She identifies herself as a Canadian except for on the pitch, which is exactly what Rossi does with the U.S./Italy.

    • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

      I would just say it seems a little rash. There’s nothing to play for in the next year and she is in the NWSL, getting Tom’s attention (she could hopes). She could have waited another year to see if she was going to get a chance.

      But, good luck to her, except against the Yanks.

      • Steglitz49

        In your oppinon, which defender or defensive midfielder would she replace in the USAWNT?

        • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

          Since she is a left-footed defender, she would back up O’Hara. The US doesn’t have much depth there — they put Mewis in that slot recently.

          She might not be good enough to make the US, but she could have been a little patient to see if something might develop. I am sure Herdman wouldn’t block her out if she didn’t commit until 2014.

          • Steglitz49

            I guess the young lady does not want to be a warm-up or back-up act. Presumably the Canadian FA put some pressure on her to commit. One assumes that next season she will be a Canadian allocated player.

            I think she has made the correct decision.

  • http://www.facebook.com/forge.dias Forge Dias

    Wow John Herdman has done his homework. No idea that Rachel Quon was able to play for Canada. Good for her, she deserves an opportunity to play internationally if she wasn’t going to be able to play for the USNT. Tancredi? The “Tanc?” another surprise. Is she even match fit for this tough friendly? Its not some push over soccer nation that Canada is facing its the best in the US. Tanc better bring her A game.

    As I suspected Herdman is going to bring his two 17yrs old in Buchanan and Lawrence. Trial by fire against a very tough opponent. Good for them in the long term in getting this experience and I think the University of West Virginia is going to be happy to get these 2 blue chippers playing for them for 4 years.

    Wonder if Sermanni and Herdman will use their full allotted 6 substitutions, we’ll have to see. But looks to be a very intresting match coming up.

  • http://twitter.com/hercircumstance hercircumstance

    Are there any other young American players with Canadian skeletons in their closet we should know about? She’s young, maxed out on our development money, is currently getting pro experience, plays a position we aren’t terribly deep at, and has every chance to get seen by Tom if she waited even six months…and instead flakes out like she’s 28 and desperate. That’s disappointing.

    There are a few young American prospects I’m following. I guess I need to research their family histories to see if I’m going to get a bad surprise later on. Meanwhile, rabid Canadian fans will have an existential crisis while booing Sydney. More likely they don’t even know 1/4 of their roster aren’t Canadian. Also, another blow to the Canadian developmental program.

  • vert2013

    Such a double standard from some of you guys. People were more than happy to embrace Syd and now that it’s reversed it’s suddenly the end of the world.

    • Celia

      Who are you talking about?
      Leroux’s situation was different she came here when she was 14. Quon was born in America raised in America attended school in America played soccer in America was in the US system played in the US u17 and u20 wwc was in the u23 player pool.

      I agree with this guy
      http://www.maple-leaf-forever.com/2013/05/22/the-rachel-quon-quandry/

      • vert2013

        The situations aren’t identical, but Syd still played with the Canadian youth programs even though she finished with the US youth programs.

        • http://twitter.com/hercircumstance hercircumstance

          Syd hadn’t played with them since 2004 (with only two appearances) and since then has been in America on our dime, in our high school system, in our college system, winning on our youth teams etc. She made the decision very early. I’m not sure how much earlier she could have done it. Leaving home at 15 sounded hard enough as it was.

          As far as I can tell Canada has spent no money on Quon while she was included in our program to our highest youth level. It is an odd choice to make now as she’s playing pro ball and in a position to get get evaluated and a good time in the cycle for it too. I’m not going to be mad at her or do any of the horrible things Canada did for Syd, but it is still sad all the same as presumably she gave up on her dream to play for her country at the time when it makes least sense to. That’s how it worked out for her. I’m just hoping players I’m a fan of don’t do similar. Why aren’t family trees in wikipedia?

          • http://www.facebook.com/forge.dias Forge Dias

            The point that some people are trying to make is that Syd took a spot on the USNT that didn’t goto an American born player. A player like Christen Press or Sarah Hagen that a lot of people wanted to see get call ups. No matter how good Syd was or how well she fit Pia Sunhauge’s system, there were a lot of people that wanted that precious USNT forward slot given to an American born player. Syd was never born in the US, she was in the Canadian youth system and she at the age of 15 was playing with the Canadian U20 program which tells you how advanced she was with Canada. They were planning on moving her up the senior ranks until Pia came along and capped Syd. When was the last time you saw Pia cap a young player that quickly with the senior team? She poached a player from the Canadian system at the expense of a player from the US and yeah some of us here wanted to see Press and Hagen get that spot.

          • http://twitter.com/hercircumstance hercircumstance

            Pia capped her after she had already been in our youth system for years winning medals for us along side Alex Morgan at the youth level. If Canada was going to make a case they had many years to do so. From what I know of Canada’s program they’ve had a lot of drama. It isn’t a shock they bungled this. She turned them down from 2004 onward as she no longer played for them.

            It is hard for me to see this as Pia robbing the bank when she was already committed to us for so many years. Was it a calculated cap? Sure. There could have been a chance she’d be a flight risk with the Olympics looming. Denying a rival that option has to be somewhere in your mind. Had she earned the cap? Most definitely and she did it in our youth program. Pia’s lack of bringing Press in (technically she was brought into camp and an Olympic alternate in London) had many layers to it. You could also say Arod’s lack of finishing left an opening for a player like Syd who is quite accomplished in her own right. I prefer Press, but both would be no brainers to bring in as early as possible. And they are both capped now. Yay!

          • http://www.facebook.com/forge.dias Forge Dias

            Uhh hello Syd was still playing for the Canadian Youth national team at the age of 15, she was getting call ups for the U20 team. Yeah she switched to the American program but she had every opportunity to make her final decision to play for either nation until she got the call up for the USNT. If Pia didn’t call her up, she would of played for the CNT, she had a spot on the senior national team. The reason she wanted to play for the US and she freely admits this, is to win World Cups and Olympic medals and the US is the super power of soccer, which she now has a gold medal. So good for her.

            What some of us have a problem is, is that Syd took a spot on the USNT on the Olympic squad that should of went to players like Christen Press or Sarah Hagen. They deserved that chance. But Pia doesn’t cap new players unless she is absolutely forced too. With Syd she was perfect for the system that Pia wanted for the USNT. But does Pia develop players? No you can’t say she does so why would she take a chance on Press or Hagen? That was our problem with Pia, the fact she didn’t develop young players.

            And who cares about being a glorified alternative. You want to be on the Olympic squad that wins the gold medal. Press should of been there not Leroux.

          • Elaine

            Could it be that Pia was just impressed with Syd’s play after watching her in the U20 World Cup 2008 where she received the Golden Boot and that’s why Pia capped her? I don’t understand why people blame another player who gets capped by a coach. This is the real world. There are no guarantees that you will a get a spot on any team just because you feel you deserve it. Getting on the NT is the hardest thing for any soccer player. Why some impress the coach more and others do not, who knows. Why not Press or Hagen or some other good US player as you say? Who the hell knows? It is what it is, so get over it already. And I wouldn’t say Pia did not bring in any new faces. She brought in Tobin and Cheney to the team.

          • kernel_thai

            There was another factor in the Leroux quick rise. Leroux went to UCLA the stomping ground of Jill Ellis. Ellis also coached Leroux with the 2010 U20s. Ellis was not only with player development for US Soccer but was Sunhage’s assistant coach at both the 2008 and 2012 Olympics. Not very surprising that Ellis preferred a player she was very familiar with. I also still believe that it was the Sweden factor that finally got Press a look in the pre Olympic camp. How could Sundhage ignore a player who was doing so well in her home country’s league and not look like a fool?

          • Elaine

            We will never truly know what went on with Pia capping Sydney and even Alex before Press. If only Pia would write a book about her years with the national team….hmm, maybe release it as an audiobook. I do miss her Swedish accent.

          • Celia

            Alex was even capped before Sydney.
            I would buy that book.

          • Steglitz49

            Never apologize; never explain.

            Would that Pia and Norio wrote a book together. Suggestions for titles, anyone?

          • Celia

            What about a book by Pia and Neid?

          • Steglitz49

            Although there are great similarities between Pia and Sylvia in that both were distinguished players and have long coaching careers, nevertheless the parallel 5 years or so of Norio and Pia should make them more interesting coauthors. Norio only started coaching ladies in 2006 and was at best an average player.

            Would that Sasaki become Blatter’s successor as head of FIFA, though the chances are slim.

          • newsouth

            Press declined some camps because of school. That may be part of the reason. After that, Pia never looked her way again until people couldn’t figure how the a hermann award winner and wps rookie of the year couldn’t get 1 cap. pia will never say, so the book is worthless. jill ellis is the reason sydney got capped. in fact pia kept sydney on the bench until jill took at seat there and sydney started to get caps. sydney was never developed. most of her progress seems to come under the short time with sermanni. pia is not missed. i’m not sure dunn would get on the pitch with pia. someone at bigsoccer said, there was a shortage of brown girls under pia. boxx don’t count.

          • Elaine

            “Press declined some camps because of school”. –

            How is it Pia’s fault that she wasn’t capped? I’m sorry but you cannot get capped to play in any game or tournament if you don’t show up for camp. How will that look to the other girls busting their butts in training. Then Press went to play in Sweden and her club team wouldn’t release her to go to pre-Olympics training. That’s Pia’s fault again? (or Alex or Syd?) To her credit she did put her as an alternate in the Olympics without any training camp attendance. People have such a short memory about our WNT. Pia came in when the team was in disarray after losing in the semi at WWC-07 and turned the team around in her 5 yrs as coach with a 91-6-10 record. That’s her legacy.

          • kernel_thai

            Stanford has a little bit of a history of school first country second. Kelly O’Hara declined to play for the 2008 U20 WWC team after helping them win CONCACAF. The reason was the tournament fell during NCAAs and Stanford had a chance to win the College Cup. As it turned out, the US won the U20 World Cup with Morgan and Leroux. North Carolina, who supplied Nikki Washington and Meaghan Klingenberg to the U20 champions also won the College Cup. There’s a decision O’Hara might want to take back and Press was also eligible to be called for that team.

          • Elaine

            Good information. Individual players make own decisions and they have to live by those decisions. You cannot blame coaches and other teammates. No two roads lead the same way. You just have to make the most of every opportunity offered to you. Press many not have started out on the NT like how some people would like. But she’s here now, so let’s just sit back and enjoy.

          • Steglitz49

            Easy, Elaine, you are beginning to sound Churchillian. Whatever next? — Never surrender!? — The NWSL as the end of the beginning? — Some groundhog; some neck!? — The choice was play or dishonor. You chose dishonor. You will get to play nevertheless. …..

          • Elaine

            Ha, ha, you’re right.

          • kernel_thai

            Perhaps she could write a musical about it and perform it herself.

          • Steglitz49

            And Alex Morgan (I think) though Kelley O´Hara may have been before Pia’s time at the helm (though was she not assistant coach for a year first?)

          • Celia

            Pia was assistant coach in the WUSA league..
            She was assistant coach for the Chinese Womens National Team. Then took over the US Team after.

          • Keithustus

            “American-born”? I didn’t know Don Trump influenced soccer fans.

            ( sarcasm )

          • NYRick

            Syd didn’t take the spot before an American like CP, Pia wrongfully gave it to her based on either player bias or a ridiculous misjudgment of talent in her pool. Syd is not in the same league as CP as a player based on talent, soccer IQ or pure past pedigree. CP is a pure striker and a goal scoring machine who has skills, much like Alex in many ways, that can’t be taught. I’m so weary of this argument, but I’ll make it and say it again because it is so blatant and obvious.

            Don’t forget that Pia is the same coach who actually was playing ARod ahead of AM for a good year and a half. It took nearly a public outcry to make the change and probably cost the US women a WC title. I don’t care how young Alex was. She was and is a prodigy. Everyone knew it and you had to be blind not to see it. The US women won despite Pia. I’m very happy to see her in Sweden and having TS here. He understands the insane young talent the US has and will build a program that won’t be touched for a good decade going forward.

          • NYRick

            “Why aren’t family trees in wikipedia?”

            Hysterical and brilliant at the same time.

    • Anton

      Exactly. A majority of the MNT players hold dual citizenship and some were brought to the team in a similar manner to this one and nobody seems to have a problem with it. You win some you lose some, it’s just the way it goes (unless your name is Neven Subotic, then you’re just a straight backstabber).

      Lets be real, how many of us knew who Rachel Quon was before today? I sure as hell didn’t.

      • Matt

        If you follow the USWNT then most likely people would know of Quon considering she has literally played for the US at every youth level and was a standout at Stanford who is able to play both right and left back.

        • Anton

          Fair enough.

          I don’t follow WNT youth squads and college soccer that much. So that’s probably why.

      • Elaine

        I think this kind of thing happens more than we know. One of my favorite player to watch is Ali Riley. I remember watching her at the Olympic quarterfinal US vs New Zealand and she was a terrific defender. She is actually born and raised in the US. Played for Stanford and even for WNY Flash in 2011. She was capped early on in her career for the New Zealand NT in 2006. I guess people are more sensitive when it’s between the US and Canada, the rivalry thing and all.

        • Celia

          Canadians keep calling it a rivalry. How is it a rivalry?

          • Elaine

            I personally don’t see the rivalry because the USWNT has beaten the CWNT for like years now. But that doesn’t stop the hype put out by the Canadians with this re-match deal. Many of them still feel that they were robbed of the win in the semi-final at 2012 Olympics.

        • kernel_thai

          Reilly is the exception…I believe she would have made USWNT so her decision was more on nationalistic grounds.

          • Elaine

            Well, we don’t know what Quon’s reasons are either. She hasn’t said a word about it yet. Maybe she has more ties to Canada than we know of. For Riley, I was just pointing out that countries do scout our players and try to recruit them to play in their national teams. No one got upset with her that she went to play for New Zealand, even though she was born in the US and went to school here.

          • Celia

            She was a Forward then got moved to LB but by then she was already with New Zealand.

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            We are seeing more & more tryout camps in the US for American & Canadian players with dual citizenship. The Philippines did it, the Irish have done it … it’s a way to jump start your depth. The US is the Brazil of women’s soccer. I think 1/2 the Olympic teams had at least 1 US citizen.

          • http://twitter.com/BostonRedSoccer Boston Red

            Riley made the decision very young and felt she wasn’t going to get a shot at the US. She got her 1st cap with NZ at 19, long before she would have gotten a shot with the US. It’s the risk you take, but she’s pretty happy with the outcome (especially because NZ is pretty much a shoo-in to win Oceania).

          • http://twitter.com/hercircumstance hercircumstance

            She was a young forward when she chose where to play. There was no chance she’d make our team as a forward. Later she converted to a position we could actually use her in but by then she was obviously a member of their team. So when people look at her now they say “Well, that was dumb. We are short on people like her.” She wasn’t actually like that until she developed more after she had already switched.

          • kernel_thai

            Which makes u appreciate the handling of Crystal Dunn all the more. She could have toiled away on the youth national teams much farther up the field. Instead she played at a position that she can make the national team at instead of having to be converted.

  • Keithustus

    So who else is excited to see how well the NWSL teams adjust to being without most of their stars for a few games? For example, will Seattle be undefeated during this period since they’ll be losing fewer players?

    • http://twitter.com/hercircumstance hercircumstance

      Ironically they don’t seem to be playing after May 25 until June 9th. On June 2 they are playing a friendly against Haiti if it is still on. So no luck for Reign again. They also will be missing Fishlock to NT duties for a spell here and there and are still missing Kate Deines and … uh. I made myself sad.

      • http://twitter.com/JennySoccerFan JennyNWSL

        Me too! Poor Reign. Should do what Red Stars did and hire some Hessian mercenaries… I mean, German players. Very good ones, by all accounts, too.

        • http://twitter.com/hercircumstance hercircumstance

          Only two international slots were allowed to each team and Reign used them on Fishlock and and a young Canadian forward. I can’t really complain with that draw. Okay, maybe that they couldn’t get two Fishlocks. Cloning isn’t quite where it needs to be yet for that to happen.

          • http://twitter.com/JennySoccerFan JennyNWSL

            Two Fishlocks!? That’d send Thorns ultras into spastic fits. (If only..!) Loved the first game where she riled them all up.

          • Keithustus

            Looks like that “young Canadian forward”, Tiffany Cameron, is also being pulled into the Friendly, so Seattle will lose 3 players after all. Still short of the 4-5 most other teams are losing for the game, but still somewhat limiting. She’s not on the allocated player list…did CNT know about her before NWSL? (According to the team website), she’s got 5 caps including 1 start.

      • Keithustus

        I don’t know about the Canadians’ schedule, but there’s also those games against South Korea for TS & Co.

        • kernel_thai

          The Canadians play the Germans on June 19, the Australians (Foord, Devanna, Kerr & Simon) play New Zealand on June 16, Fishlock has to games against Slovakia on June 17 & 20 and of course Adrianna will be playing for Spain in Euros in July. If the Mexicans have friendlies I havent seen anything.

          • Steglitz49

            Brave (foolhardy?) Germans to take on the Beaverettes so close to the Euro’s.

          • Keithustus

            It’s so nice to have folks around who, for reasons I can’t fathom, feel compelled to know all these little details. I just put my team’s schedule on my calendar and check what’s coming up in each upcoming 48 hours.

          • kernel_thai

            If u r going to follow a league that is too dumb to not schedule during the international windows u have have to know how many games bad scheduling will likely cost u : )

          • Keithustus

            I LIKE that there will be games without the stars! Teams are forced to adapt, which is an extra training and planning challenge. Makes for great entertainment, and shows off some players who otherwise wouldn’t get as much playing time. Maybe the leagues you watch should try it.

          • Steglitz49

            You need to acquire some soccer quotes. Here are a few classics:

            “Football is not a matter of life and death. It is more important than that.” — Bill Shankly;

            “Sometimes it is post in and sometimes it is post out.” — Zlatan;

            “The ball is round” — Sepp Herberger.

            That should get you started. Then you can start memorizing the mottos in Latin of English clubs. Yes, Latin. The Brits take their soccer seriously. It is more important than …

          • Keithustus

            Cool, thanks. But I draw the line at knowing anything about UK/Europe teams. (unless they have USWNT players)

          • Steglitz49

            Don’t mention it. Whitney Engen plays for Liverpool so you need to learn the Liverpool song and why the Philharmonic toilets are worthy of a detour.

          • Keithustus

            If I see Engen play for more than a few minutes and be awesome like her teammates, then maybe.

  • NYRick

    I propose a new word for the soccer vernacular…”Quoned.”

    Sentence usage, “We just got Quoned.”

    Definition: The act of digging up a shady and irrelevant country of origin to play said international sport, when it is deemed said individual is not talented enough or willing to persevere the necessary time, sweat and toil to make the team of his or her residence and in reality true home.

    And for the record, I’m of the belief that Syd belongs in Canada too, and the Klinsy German player train to the USMNT team is a bleeding joke.

    • http://twitter.com/JennySoccerFan JennyNWSL

      Hey now, Canada’s not shady or irrelevant. ;-)

      Best insight so far into why Quon pulled a Benedict Arnold is here: http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/22/uswnt-vs-canada-united-states-womens-national-team-roster-tom-sermanni/

      All these girls are ambitious and have devoted their young lives to reaching the top level in their sport. Who can blame them for not wanting to warm a bench? Gamble on ‘making the team’ and dutifully subbing for her country, or play for the country that wants her on their first team right now?

      Granted, Quon defected young, but she evidently knows the odds. Breaking in to the USWNT starting 11 isn’t real likely if Sermanni is going to play the beloved vets until they’ve geriatric. I love ‘em too, but friendlies are where you take a few risks with your roster and test some new legs.

      Unless you’re Canada facing the US, but beating Americans is a singularly Canadian obsession.

      I hope Quon does well for CANWNT. They genuinely need her, while we have the depth to find someone else to play understudy at back.

      • http://www.facebook.com/forge.dias Forge Dias

        Well thought out post. Agreed I have no problem with Rachel Quon playing for Canada. With Crystal Dunn and now Kristen Mewis getting caps at fullback, Quon’s chances of making the USNT is pretty slim.
        Its why so many players are playing for the Mexican National Team. Half their roster is American now. Mexico wants to improve and their using the US college system and mining them for prospects. If these players had some hope that they could get call ups for friendlies then they would stay with the US national program, but with the USNT sticking with a veteran roster, there is little hope for many young players to make it onto the team. Especially as a starter. At least with Mexico, Canada, New Zealand, which has 3 Americans on their roster as well. They can go in as starters.

        I wish Rachel Quon all the luck, Canada is very weak on the left side and Quon is a natural left footed player that plays left back so she almost certainly will become their starter.

        • Steglitz49

          The Philippines’ NT, the Malditas, have a number of Americans of Philippine extraction.

      • Celia

        She’s only been playing professionally for a few months. She couldn’t wait?

  • stephy_paola

    the official Canadian twitter account just tweeted:

    “Dear @KaylynKyle. Did you know that @RMQuon’s dad was born in Rosetown SK? #TeamSask on the rise. @SaskSoccerAssoc #canWNT”

    An the question is finally answered