Rookie of the Year Erika Tymrak heading to FC Bayern

Meg Linehan August 28, 2013 138

Erika Tymrak is heading to Germany in the NWSL off-season. (Photo Copyright FC Kansas City/John Rieger)

FC Kansas City stand-out and NWSL Rookie of the Year Erika Tymrak is hopping the Atlantic for at least part of the NWSL off-season.  Sources confirmed that Tymrak will be heading to the Frauen-bundesliga to play for FC Bayern München.

It’s still a little too early to confirm if a second FC Kansas City player will join Tymrak in playing for FC Bayern.  FC Bayern is likely looking for a replacement for goalkeeper Katja Schroffenegger, who recently tore her ACL.

An announcement from FC Kansas City concerning the signing could come as soon as today or tomorrow.

Tymrak (and the potential second player) will have some American teammates expecting her in Germany, including Amber Brooks (who was drafted by Portland Thorns FC but elected to play for FC Bayern) and Sarah Hagen.

  • kernel_thai

    This is no problem on a short contract and a huge mistake if it turns into another Rapinoe situation. FCKC has her rights and can loan her out if they want. If she isnt in their uniform come April fans should be asking why they should support a team that doesnt support them in turn.

    • Steglitz49

      One assumes that Bayern Munich are buying out her contract and KC gets some dosh. Let’s wait and see how the cookie crumbles.

      • kernel_thai

        Not a chance because KC doesnt hold her contract, the league does.

        • Steglitz49

          You are kidding me?

          • Boston Red

            Probably does, similar to MLS. It’s a model for a younger league to keep teams from hurting the league while helping themselves.

          • Steglitz49

            Makes sense. Provided Bayern makes a fair offer, the league can hardly not sell her? I guess a year’s salary would do it.

          • Boston Red

            Hard to say. No precedent and buying in the women’s game (especially across borders) is rare. The fact that she will probably be on a NT contract for the next season also enters in. That’s why I’m guessing this is simply a loan and then we’ll see down the road what happens.

          • newsouth

            she’d have to unseat one of the current mid-fielders, or boxx isn’t coming back. i only see mewis and oreilly as bubble players but that;s an outside because either isnt going anywhere unless an inj happens. so see tymarek sometime after 2015

          • Steglitz49

            Then her choice is obvious. Go to Bayern, one of the most celebrated names in soccer, and enjoy life. With other Americans already there it will be easy. Lime Mrs Ogimi, when she tires of Germany she can go to London. (If she tires of London, she tires of life.)

          • Boston Red

            Remember there was one open allocation slot this year + Heather Mitts retirement. We don’t know yet if Lindsey or Boxx or Winters will make the allocation cut going forward (or if they will bump allocations in the 2nd year or if allocations & NT contracts will be 100% correlated). She will certainly be in the discussion, depending on what happens with any Euro-based players and if some current allocated players get the okay to go to Europe full-time.

          • Steglitz49

            Also, if the nationality of a loan-player does not count, a loan might suit Bayern on account of the non-EU limit.

        • hercircumstance

          How long were contracts for though? Rookie? Free agent? NT are under contract with US Soccer. Hm.

    • Monique

      why so dramatic?

    • STT

      Rapinoe had a contract w/ Lyon before NWSL happened, so the Lyon contract took precedent. All players who started the season have their contracts with NWSL first and European clubs second, (see some of Kreiger’s comments about her contract w/ Tyreso,) so there’s a tighter reign (no pun intended) on players who are only just now going overseas. They WILL be coming back.

      • hercircumstance

        NTers have their contracts with US Soccer, not with their teams. At least according to the Rapinoe situation. Rapinoe wasn’t on loan to Reign from Lyon. She was out of contract with Lyon. The NWSL teams hold NTers rights if they play in the NWSL. They aren’t obligated to show up. Now the rank and file NWSL players are different. I’m not sure how many years rookie contracts run or free agents for that matter. If someone signed for just a season then they could go as they please.

  • NYRick

    This has disaster written all over it for the NWSL. Short term, end of year thing OK. If she stays into next year it continues a vicious cycle for the new league, especially with one of the rising young American stars going to Europe. I actually was hoping she wouldn’t go to Europe this soon. She’s real important to the US program going forward. I get the whole experience, cultural and improvement thing, but this is really bad sign. A real bad one.

    Women’s soccer is dead in the water without a strong US league. That Olympic gold was for nothing I’m starting to think. I just don’t think either these players (who I’m not faulting because they are going where the money is), or the USSF fully understands this. Something (as in major changes, incentives, higher salaries for USWNT players) has to be implemented. Dead in the water. I’m telling you.

    • snishy

      The only problem is that there are no incentives… yet. Or even if there are incentives, they most certainly aren’t financial ones which is the most important one for teams and players alike.

      • Steglitz49

        NYRick’s point that women’s soccer needs a strong US league is on the money. The whole world wants the NWSL to succeed and grow.

        Let’s look on the bright side. Bayern Munich picking Ms Tymrak is an endorsement of the NWSL and of KC specifically. Ms Tymrak moving on opens up a slot in the NWSL for a young hopeful to get her chance. Ms Tymrak’s move will, hopefully, act as a wake-up call to those running the show.

        It will be fascinating to see whether other teams with fast cash come calling.

        • Boston Red

          She hasn’t “moved on” yet. Let’s find the details, because she is (presumably) on a 2 year contract. A loan for 1/2 the season might be ideal if she doesn’t come back burned out.

          • Steglitz49

            Bayern will buy her just like Lyon bought Lotta Schelin from Gothenburg. How much can USSF ask for a rookie of the year? A year’s salary?

    • Steglitz49

      The young lady is not going to “Europe”. She is going to one of the most celebrated club names in soccer. Not only exceedingly successful but also very wealthy.

      Let’s see what her contracts looks like, but Bayern Munich’s ladies would dearly love to play in the CL and those two top spots are tough in the German ladies’ league. In the NWSL there were 4 spots for the play-offs between 8 teams. In Germany and most of Europe it is 2 from 12 that go to the CL.

      Unless the NWSL can figure out a way to fight back, at the end of each season these wealthy clubs will cherry pick in the NWSL. Who would not go and play over there?

      • kernel_thai

        But that’s not actually true U have Wolfsberg, Frankfurt, Potsdam and Bayern so two out of four go. In France it’s Lyon and somebody else tho PSG is trying hard to make it Lyon and PSG go. Sweden it’s mostly between Tyreso, Malmo and Gothenberg. Theyd be better off in Europe to take the best twelve teams and put them in a Super League. At the least ud get good matches. That would also make D1, Bundesliga, ESL, etc much more competitive. It would also make the races for the cups more fun because that would still included the big teams.

        • Steglitz49

          The Champions League is the Super League. You qualify it by finishing top 1 or 2 in your national league the season before.

          Your point about the merit of the NWSL having modeled itself on the NFL by trying to equal out between teams, is well taken. In the European countries money talks and Bayern Munich is an exceedingly wealthy club. Cash is changing the face of women’s soccer massively.

          Teams in the national leagues go up and down. Umeå played a total of 5 finals in their glory years and won 2 back to back. Lyon also has 2 in succession. Frankfurt with 3 wins has most wins, Arsenal has won once.

          Next season’s CL will be extra exciting because Potsdam has lost Mrs Ogimi but gained her kid sister Ms Nagasato, while Wolfsburg bought Nilla Fischer.

          • kernel_thai

            Refresh my memory…did Lyon play more than 10 CL matches in 2012-13? Wouldnt u rather see them play 22 matches against the other CL teams with French Cup matches mixed in? Or do u like watching them beat the milk maids 11-0? By the way then Lyon Goal Differential in the champions league was 34-2 (+32) and Wolfsberg score the exact same amount of goal against them as the rest of the CL combined. Pretty super.

          • Commander WANK!!!

            OL played 40 matches all competitions combined (D1F + WCL + Coupe de France + Mobcast Cup)…that’s a pretty huge amount of games to play (twice less than a NBA franchise in a regular season).

            Sterglitz is (for once) right the Champions league is the Super League. Men’s Champions Leage does take more than 12 very competitive clubs; 3 or 4 from each Top European leagues, but men’s soccer is much more developped than women’s soccer.

            All the men’s major league clubs for each countries has to be professional. It is impossible to do the same with women’s soccer for now because under 110 eligible European clubs only 10% are professional.

            The vast majority of European countries have just opened their eyes about the rise of women’s ‘football’, it has happened just recently …
            and again it is not the United States of Europe but Singular Countries in Europe, with each is own mean, culture and potential.

            When all the top women’s league will be completely professional, UEFA will need look into taking more clubs, and creating the same format as the men CL.

          • Steglitz49

            The Commander types wisdom, as usual. UEFA recently appointed its first woman to its executive committee. UEFA is committed to women’s soccer though only at the extent of 1% of its wealth, not 4-5% as Lyon.

            UEFA is also committed to club soccer and to national leagues. The clubs want a second competition for the teams who win their domestic challenge cups, but so far UEFA has declined.

            The NWSL should model itself on UEFA. They should gradually build from 4 to 8 to 16 regionalized leagues. This will keep travel down and thereby also costs. The top placed teams of those would qualify for a Super-League the next season.

            The NWSL could also start a domestic challenge cups based on the member states of the USA and Mexico and the Canadian provinces. Whether to start with 64 or 128 teams is a good question, thugh we can agree that 512 may be the ultimate goal.

    • STT

      Her contract to NWSL happened before this Bayern contract, so it’s highly unlikely that she can skip out on NWSL duties to stay in Germany.

      • Steglitz49

        Bayern can buy her. A year’s salary would be a decent transfer fee. She would get 5% (or even 10%) of the transfer fee if standard soccer transfer rules apply. Thus, were Bayern to spring $200k for her, Ms Tymrak would get at least $10k. (Lyon paid $250k for Lotta Schelin 5 years ago.)

        • STT

          Well yeah, purchase is definitely an option. But that would be a new contract altogether. This current one wouldn’t have been made to conflict with the NWSL season since that’s her primary contract.

          • Steglitz49

            Ms Tymrak has to look out for herself because no-one else will and she can’t count on either USSF nor BM being likely to put her interests first.

    • Boston Red

      Until we have a couple of years under our belts as a league and have figured out the model for signing & keeping players, we are going to have these periods of “panic.” It may be tough on the outside, but with only 8 teams and suggestion that a number of US players are looking to come back to give NWSL a shot, I think we’ll be okay. It just seems like the sky is falling right now (or has the potential to).

  • Steglitz49

    The header looks a bit odd. The team is generally known as Bayern Munich in English. No-one bothers with the FC. The same as with Arsenal, Barcelona or Chelsea. (If you were writing a long article, you might use simply Bayern or BM after the first full Bayern Munich.)

    The question is whether they now have to ditch a non-EU player to accommodate Ms Tymrak. Maybe they already have?

    • Mosan

      American players fall under a special rule thus do not count as non EU-player. That’s why they are easy to fit in your Bundesliga roster.

      • Steglitz49

        Really? I thought, as discussed elsewhere, that at least one of the American players in Bayern (Nikki Cross) counts as an EU-player on account of either her mum or dad. But you may be right.

  • Elaine

    The sharks are circling (and I mean it in the nicest way). Who’s next, Franch?

    • Steglitz49

      The German league, though not all leagues, impose a limit on non-EU players. Bayern Munich has gotten round it in the past because one of their women players holds dual citizenship so does not count as an American for those purposes.

      Obviously any wealthy club, who wants to, can cherry pick from the NWSL. More power to the young ladies’ elbows to go out and enjoy their lives in all their fullness.

  • Diane (DeeG)

    Defender Niki Cross also plays for Bayern Munich.

    • Steglitz49

      Thank you. That was the name I tried to remember. She is classed as EU on account of either her mum or dad. Bayern has Gina Lewandovski on their books as well, so maybe she is hanging up her boots or has moved elsewhere?

      • Diane (DeeG)

        And how could I forget Gina Lewandowski. 4 Americans in all, right now.

        • http://partdeuxphoto.tumblr.com/ Meg Linehan

          I just didn’t feel the need to list all four of them, though obviously that was the wrong call :)

  • Ron Bishop

    A player has got to play.

    I imagine Tymrak is looking towards WWC 2015. 22 club matches and (perhaps) a smattering of USWNT call ups ain’t going to cut it.

    If she’s in Germany “part of the NWSL off season”, no problems. If she’s there longer, then good for her and another player will have an opportunity to take her place in the NWSL.

    I’m still renewing my season tickets for FCKC either way.

    Nothing different than the men’s game.

    • Steglitz49

      With Pinoe and Heath and, possibly, Carli, what are Ms Tymrak’s chances of making the WC-15 squad, let alone play?

      I would take the opportunity to play for an illustrious club where other Americans are enjoying themselves. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Also, if she does well with Bayern, she is unlikely to be passed over in 2015.

      • Ron Bishop

        Exactly. It’s possible one of those you mention will be unable to play. I don’t know Tymrak’s chances of making the WC15 squad, but “not playing” isn’t going to help her.

        I hope Tymrak lights it up for Bayern Munich!

      • newsouth

        she can make the nt if there is an injury or preg at the position she is competing for. outside of that she won’t be on the 2015 squad. that’s the the nt works. no way sermanni and staff give walking papers to oreilly, heath or one of the mid-fielders if she just flat out bests them out.

        • NYRick

          Don’t you find it kind of amazing that Bayern probably watched about 15 minutes of film on this girl and decided she was the real deal…YET she has to do a most likely 3-year “apprenticeship” with our big bad NT before she awarded the luxury of perhaps starting. It’s a joke. Our 21 and 22 year old need to be featured if they are good enough. And we have plenty of good ones that we are forcing to go to Europe to make a name for themselves. The USSF, by it’s structure and philosophy is much at fault here.

          Defend them if you must. They are the true villans. And I’m not citing this Tymrak case totally either. All around. The politics are catching up with the US program, and it’s going to get worse if something or someone isn’t removed or adjusted. I’m thoroughly pissed about this.

          • titus

            yeah just go ahead and compare a club team to a nt that makes sense.

          • NYRick

            You’re missing the point. I’m comparing how the USSF is going about it’s business when dealing with their top young players. They are stifled in the system, that’s why they are looking to Europe to get better…and get international experience. It’s not just the money. The young, exceptionally good talent in the US program (that we are producing at an absurd rate mind you) is waiting too long to get on the pitch for the NT. No need for that. The US team is going to win 95% of their games anyone. They need to transition properly when it’s time. Except with our vets, and the system in place. It’s never time.

            Opportunistic club teams like Lyon, Bayern and Tyreso are like vultures now. They sense the weakness in the US system in properly evaluating, capping and keeping their real talent happy.

          • Steglitz49

            It is not any old club team.

          • Elaine

            What’s amazing is that clubs like Bayern, Tyreso, Lyon, PSG have such deep pockets to lure our best talent over to them. Where are our millionaires and emirs? We can’t even get the owners of the MLS involved in our women’s game. Until the big money gets thrown behind women’s soccer in this country, look for more of our young ones flying overseas.

          • Steglitz49

            Tyresö, like Potsdam and Frankfurt, are not very wealthy. Instead those clubs have loyal fans who pony up money to keep their clubs competitive.

            It speaks rather to the low pay of the ladies. Lotta Schelin is one of the best paid women players at about $200-250k per year. She is Swedish. Sweden’s best paid male player is Zlatan who earns about $13.5m basic, and he is not the best paid male player. I think that is Messi at ca $40m per year.

            Zlatan earns >$13m more than Lotta and Messi >$39m more.

            Given how cheap a ladies soccer club is to run, why are not Apple or Microsoft or Donna Karan or Vera Wang not falling over themselves to run one, not to mention Estée Lauder or Avon? In short, like Tyresö and Umeå before them, and like Potsdam and Frankfurt, US fans need to get behind their teams.

          • NYRick

            Your point is well taken on the likes of a high profile successful women seizing the opportunity to run a women’s team. Like you say, a Donna Karan, Vera Wang or even a Ralph Lauren who markets many of his lines to the active, all American girl. Seems like a perfect match for any of them to buy a team, and then sign up an Alex or Christen for some clothing ads etc. Plays up athleticism and beauty, which would be a target for their audience I believe.

            But Elaine is correct. We have plenty of multi millionaires in the US looking for some toy to throw their money at, and given the inexpensive nature “for them” of buying a women’s team and manipulating it like an Emir would be quite easy. It should be noted that Bon Jovi, who is a big American football fan, bought a Philly team in the indoor football league a few years ago. He wanted to own a sports franchise but owning an NFL team is another stratosphere, and an old boys club. But these are the people we need. Rafael Nadal, and Djorkovic are massive soccer fans. Get one of them to own a US team. There is a way. The USSF and the NWSL has not yet found it. There are plenty of much richer and more high profile Merritt Paulsons out there.

          • Steglitz49

            Most men and almost all women do not give two figs for women’s soccer. The number of spectators at matches do not lie. They might be misinterpreted but the truth is there for all to see.

            The USWNT has dominated the women’s soccer world for two decades, yet it receives less attention that the NHL. Indeed, many college sports, including women’s basket gets more exposure. The world is not enough.

          • newsouth

            here’s the problem with women’s soccer: women will get paid when you can convince companies to write money off of their books like in women’s tennis and golf. att, microsoft, cisco, etc, etc, etc could sponsor the the nwls to the tune of $20M each and just write it off as advertising/promotion like they do when they host a WTA or LPG tournament or any other fortune 1000. get the point. AARP pays $35M a year just to put a logo on Jeff Gordons car. if i was women’s soccer, i’d study the WTA and LPG models.

          • Elaine

            You got that right. Until the big corporations get behind pro women’s soccer in this country, nothing the NWSL can do to entice young talented players to stay and play here. Our league at this moment in time just cannot compete monetary wise with those overseas. That’s the reality.

          • NYRick

            The model to study is the Virginia Slims tour in tennis. If I was an NWSL or USSF executive, I would study it’s early stages inside out and back again. There were serious growing pains and the women were playing for peanuts but they stuck with it. And this talk of careers being short and go where the money is, is pure BS. The current crop of women stars are still pioneers for their next generation. They have to sacrifice for the health of the sport 10-20 years down the road. Doesn’t seem like their willing. And with that, can “we play for the love of the sport” for all them finally end? Just not true.

            Fortunately for the Virginia Slims tour, the stars of the day (BJ King, Chris Evert, Martina) were fully behind it. That doesn’t seem to be happening with the top US players. Would it surprise anyone if Alex plays an 8-game season in the NWSL next year or the year after?

          • NYRick

            Just want to add that a huge difference with the Virginia Slims tour then and the current state of sports celebrity now is social media. I think all these US players, especially the big names, are queens on Twitter and such. They may think they are more famous and better than they actually are. Social media and instant fame are a bane to celebrity. There are positives to it, but tremendous negatives that have yet to be realized. With the VS tour, the top women were not super famous at the time, but they are understood their vehicle to fame and fortune was the success of the tour. The greater good of one. Yes, there were the stars, but the whole entity prospered with unity.

            The current crop of US stars (Alex, Hope, Abby) play the fool’s gold game. Not criticizing them for it, but as you can see from this year’s allocation process, they and others dictated the actions. It can’t be that way. The USSF has to be more powerful than the stars. When that happens, success and money will follow. Even in the major sports, LeBron is not bigger than the NBA. Jordan wasn’t. Right now, Alex is bigger than the USSF. The structure is out of whack and when that happens, chaos and strife occur. Just an opinion. Fix the system, fix the problem.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex has to play in USA and hope that the NWSL survives because she makes her dosh mainly off the field and her name will not command the fraction of what it commands in the good old US of A.

            Who would be the bigger star in France? Louisa Necib or Alex Morgan? Maybe the Commander can give us his opinion because it is usually worth having.

          • Steglitz49

            So, why aren’t they? That is the 64,000-dollar question, is it not?

          • Commander WANK!!!

            That’s the point : most of those who start to invest in women soccer in Europe are first and foremost men clubs…

            Running a women’s section in those clubs is pretty cheap and I mean not only running a senior squad but junior squads, academies, formative policies in the whole…

            No one is to blame really, soccer culture is stronger in Europe that’s the fact, the structures are there for years even for centuries, it would be easy for Europe women soccer to take the same shape in such a wealthy landscape, it is almost a natural course to take.

          • Elaine

            Growing pains is what we are experiencing now in the US for women’s soccer. Will it ever take off? Will the men clubs in this country take on a women’s section like you say? So far only Paulson said yes. The NWSL is on an uphill climb here. We may see more of our young talent start out in the NWSL to be seen, but will soon get snatched up by teams overseas once they are seen. I guess as fans we better get used to it for awhile.

          • Commander WANK!!!

            Yes, I think there are too much over reactions and demands for the 1st year of NWSL. The most important remains the sustainablity of the league in order to stay open and welcoming each year for all kind of players : youths, stars, veterans, US players and foreigners…

          • Boston Red

            Kinda like how Canada used the NWSL to land Rachel Quon. In some ways, other sides will always benefit when we showcase our abundance of talent.

          • Steglitz49

            I am not persuaded that MLS starting women’s division is necessarily a benefit for the ladies. Even the richest MLS teams are not well to do even compared with a club like Lyon who blazed the trail for women in Europe. I contend that the MLS is a red herring in this.

            The team owners and the Chief Ideologist and the Propaganda Minister of the NWSL must roll up their collective sleeves and go out and sell women’s pro-soccer to the wealthy corporations of America. Defraying the whole league is chicken-feed.

          • Elaine

            We won’t know if involving the MLS teams to women’s soccer will benefit or if they are better off on their own with millionaires behind them. Portland with the Thorns showed it can be successful. If another MLS team decides to link up with a women’s section, it will tell us more. Right now the MLS connection is the easiest route to go. There is already in place the infrastructure such as soccer specific stadiums, training facilities, media outlets like websites and shows, marketing apparatus, etc. What are the downsides, you think?

          • Steglitz49

            It depends. USWNT has dominated world soccer for decades and ought to be able to make this a calling card with investors. Play your trump when it matters; do not waste it needlessly.

            Judging by history, when men’s teams are short of money or want to spend more on some aspect of the men’s game, they strangle their women’s division. Ask the Brazilians. Man Utd closed their women’s section in spite of protests. Chelsea were going to had not John Terry (of all people) stepped in and opened his wallet — hard to believe in a season when they bought both Yuki Ogimi and Sofia Jakobsson. There are tons of examples.

            Who do you think will get the prime slots in those soccer specific stadia?

            The wealthy teams like Arsenal and Bayern Munich spend on their women about 1% of what they spend on their men, they are that rich. How far would 5% of the MLS budget stretch? (Lyon spends 4-5%, allegedly.)

            In short, when women soccer get into bed with men’s, they risk getting royally screwed. Better free and poor than beholden.

          • Elaine

            You make good points. But I think the NWSL should take the risk in aligning with the men’s. This is one model that hasn’t been tried yet from the previous 2 times. Note almost all of the teams today exist in areas where they could partner up with an already existing MLS team. Is that by design? We’ll see though. I found an interesting read regarding SkyBlue and the Red Bulls:

            http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/sports/soccer/sky-blue-looks-beyond-nwsl-playoffs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

          • Steglitz49

            Your point is well taken. Also, Amber Brooks, Sarah Hagen, Nikki Cross and Gina Lewandovski may well have recommended (endorsed) Ms Tymrak. Bayern may have had some scouts who were covering men’s games and checked her out in the flesh so to speak. In any case they probably watched quite a few videos as well.

      • NYRick

        Steg, once again you are locked into “what’s there already” being the blockage to a talented player breaking through. You think exactly how the USSF seniority system conditions US fans to think. “We’re winning, we have a 95% winning percentage, it’s not broke, why fix it.” Here’s the deal, with this line of thinking you never know if you have Aaron Rodgers sitting there behind Brett Favre.

        Players like Tymrak, Press, Alex (while she was sitting behind Arod) are rare. Maybe Franch is too. Maybe Amber Brooks is too. But they all have to be in their mid 20s (less Alex) before they are featured? Why? It’s insanity. Exceptional talent is very easy to see in any sport. Especially it should be for a good coach. When I see talent, I don’t care what age. They play. They will make their mistakes, but they can make them on the pitch as far as I’m concerned. Look what Germany and Japan are doing this year.

        And every time I watch an EPL game (even the Chelseas, Man Utd., Liverpool etc.) there are always several 21 year olds excelling on the pitch. The women can’t do the same? Hogwash.

        • KD

          I think you are oversimplifying the situation and are very insulting to the current NT players and USSF in general. You imply that the players on the national team only have a spot because they are big bullies and everyone is afraid of them. You think that USSF and Tom Sermani are incompetent morons who are incapable of recognizing new talent. (However, you do task those bullies and morons to grow the Women’s game, go figure.)

          What I think is happening, is that in order to grow the popularity of women’s soccer, the USSF is marketing personalities, rather than just marketing the game. Look at how many videos USSF has on YouTube about the players, but have nothing to do with them playing soccer? Now, in order to not alienate your current fan base (who pay $100+ per ticket to come to the NT games), you have to make sure you have enough “personalities” on the field. I assume the hope is that fans will show up for the personalities, but learn to love the game. This means that there will be no sweeping changes to the roster, and new talent will be incorporated slowing. I actually think TS is doing a good job of incorporating new players, it just doesn’t appear to be as swiftly as you like.
          The marketing of personalities also flows over to the NWSL, and fans come out to see their favorite players play.

          If this is indeed what is happening, I think that some players will end up getting screwed over. What else is the solution? I don’t believe Women’s soccer is stable enough here yet to stop marketing the personalities. We cannot risk losing the fans we have worked so hard to get. Comparing Women’s soccer to established European men’s clubs is comparing apples and oranges. If you were in charge of the USSF, what would you do? Make sweeping roster changes and hope the fans follow and risk losing the ground we worked so hard to gain?

          • NYRick

            You make some interesting points, thanks for the feedback. First off, I don’t think I’m insulting the current NT players, nor do I intend for that. I’m just calling it as I see it as an observation really. I do get the “whole” market the personalities thing that the USSF is doing on the US soccer site. However, I wonder if it’s working properly. I would have thought KO would have been a huge draw, but SB had the worst attendance in the league. I realize she was injured, but it was even before that and I would think she has one of the biggest personalities on the team. The only true way personalities happen is with top agents like Alex now has, and she gets her features on Fox Soccer and such. But I do get the strategy for the other players, but I think it’s working for the 14 year old girls on Twitter, not the soccer fanbase they should be after.

            As for Sermanni, I never called him or do I think he’s a moron. I’m sure he’s a good soccer man and I like him as the coach. But I do think he is handcuffed by the USSF in terms of certain things and certain players. And in my opinion, Abby is a bully. Not in the true sense of the word, but from the standpoint is that she understands her status, and uses it to her advantage with the program at all times. That’s kind of a bully. Boxx, Rampone, HAO, Carli (the old guard) have a little power in that area too. Let’s face it, they can make it awfully difficult for a young player to break into the squad if they so chose. Not saying they do that, but they certainly can if they wanted to.

            As for my solutions, like of all of us on here, we are discussing it. No one has all the answers and it’s certainly more complicated than on the surface. One thing for sure is maybe pay the NT players more. Keep the stars committed to the US program and the NWSL. And I’m talking a lot more, maybe a 30-40% pay increase. The USSF has the money, they need to invest it wisely. Secondly, corporate sponsors need to get involved in the league obviously. Big names, and maybe something like the Virginia Slims tour sponsorship with millions of dollars involved. Easier said than done, but this is the US where sports rule the day. Women’s soccer is the sport of choice for girls in this country so I see no reason why it can’t be sold to big sponsors from that standpoint.

            Lastly, regarding my comment about young 21 year olds starring in the premiership or La Liga etc., I just don’t understand why our American girls can’t do the same for the NT. Answer is, they obviously can, but they have to play a seniority game with the vets who roadblock them, because as you first indicated, the “personalities” of the team are bigger than the program. And they coach in place, whether it’s Pia or TS is not bigger than the personalities on the team. Also, the reason the vets are so powerful now is that the gig is so great. No one wants to give that up. Even when it’s time and it works against the advancement of the program.

            It’s complicated for sure.

          • tplant36

            All your complaints about the veteran players being bullies and holding young talent back are confusing. TS IS bring in young players. He’s tried out several players in their early 20′s. The current players do nothing but embrace the younger ones. You never hear anyone complaining or worried about losing spots. Abby says she wants to play in WC15 and hopes she can hold on to her spot, she’s not assuming she’s on that team.

            Soccer is the sport of little girls in this country, and at the last Flash/Thorns game I witnessed those little girls shrieking at Abby like she was in One Direction or something (honestly I was afraid for her). While Tobin Heath, a young rising star, had some fans yelling but nothing close to that level. I can only imagine what it would have been like if Alex was there. So you just want the US to dump one of it’s top 2 draws?

            I agree with KD about sweeping changes not being the answer. The great thing about the national team, as compared to a lot of other sports, is that you can actually buy a jersey and expect that player to stick around awhile. You can pick and favorite and invest in the team.

            Being close to Rochester, the Flash are my team, but the way the NWSL set up makes me concerned that the rosters are going to have revolving doors. Carli Lloyd is my favorite player, but I won’t buy a jersey and I definitely based my ticket purchases on who was playing in what games. You’re franchise needs a face, whether it’s a club or NT, and that face can’t be changing every few years to maintain a strong fanbase. Loyalty maintains a strong fanbase.

          • NYRick

            I respect your opinion, but if you don’t think someone like Abby has influence on her holding her spot or influencing other players who get on the pitch to support her, than you are being a little naive. Abby is starting and playing in WC15 if she wants to. She has to hold on to nothing. You may say she’s earned that at this point, and you may be right. But I think her role should be reduced and altered. She jogs up and down the pitch now, and 35 year old strikers aren’t the norm in the game of soccer. She is still effective because she is the strongest player in the box and her timing on headers is absolutely impeccable and well thought out. Although I do think she damn near kills defenders sometimes by crashing into them or just terrorizing them out there on set pieces.

            As for casting aside one of US top draws, I think a younger featured star like Tymrak or Press would get the same adulation over time. Problem is, they will never get that time. Alex is a unique situation. Very good player who is marketed 80% on her looks to a male audience. Even if her biggest fans were to deny that, they would be totally off base and not understand a thing of how the USSF operates. US Soccer was starting to do that at the end with Mia, but she was already in her early 30s and ready to retire. In Alex, if she stays healthy, she has a starting place on the team for a good 8 more years. Even if there are better choices. If you’re good with that, than fine.

            And there is nothing wrong with loyalty for players or teams. I bought into all that as a little kid. Now I see sports as a business. And the business of women’s soccer is at stake with how the USSF operates in my opinion. It’s time for some changes. Question is, what are they are and who is strong enough to come in and break the mold? Because it may soon all go pear shaped for US soccer.

          • tplant36

            I think Abby has a huge influence on holding her spot and on younger players. If she says she can go, I’d want her in my lineup. I just don’t think she’s bullying anyone. You make it sound like she’s in a boardroom somewhere campaigning for herself and whoever else to get playing time. If that was the case, she’d play every minute of every game.

            If there is someone better than Alex Morgan in 8 years, then I’d want that person to be playing. But Alex still has a lot of room to grow, and she’s pretty ok now, so with the maturity and experience that 8 years could give her…as long as she doesn’t slow down, I don’t see anyone unseating her.

            I want new players of course. I think our 2015 team is going to look quite a bit different than our 2011 team. Abby would make a great supersub, and I think if that’s the role that her coach tells her to play and tells her he thinks is what will win that WC, she will do it.

            Being from Buffalo, I have suffered the pain of loss in sports more than most…so maybe I just have a high tolerance for failure :) The USWNT is basically my most successful sports team that I root for, so I don’t want the players I like gone!

          • Steglitz49

            I doubt that Alex will be around 8 years from now. I expect her to retire after Rio-16, whatever the outcomes of those and WC-15.

          • Steglitz49

            Alex is unlikely to play for 8 more years. Whatever the outcome of WC-15, we should expect Alex to quit after OG-16.

            Women’s soccer needs to develop Alex’s understudy, who is ready to shoulder her cloak 4 years from now. She has to be (almost) as good a player and equally photogenic and winsome. High time to study the college freshmen and sophomores. It may even be worth getting her a contract with a glamorous team abroad for a couple of years and only bring her to the NWSL in the fullness of time.

          • luke

            she may be playing, but I don’t think she is next Rampone to not lose her quickness in next 8 years (and that’s her biggest weapon)

          • Steglitz49

            Alex will be 27 in Rio. It is hard to see her bothering to carry on playing. Why bother? (There are only so many brands of body paint after all.)

          • Steglitz49

            The coach was bigger than the personalities on the team. That is a feature of all successful coaches. Neither Sasaki nor Neid have been immune from criticism but their records, like Pia’s speak for themselves, as does Pellerud’s.

          • Steglitz49

            Marketing personalities seems inventive and looks like a worthwhile ploy. Once a young lady advances from just learning to play, she plays in a certain position and then her natural model are others who play there, be it Tobin Heath, Erika Tymrak, Megan Rapinoe or Carli Lloyd. The forward idol is a given one as is the goalie.

            Defenders I do not have strong feeling for. Maybe be extra inventive and sell them Kumagai and Iwashimizu, not least the famous tackle by the latter. It gives an excuse to show the forward again. As for free-kicks and penalties there is only one: Aya Miyama — though she is not terribly glamorous. She could double up and model for all the petite players: “Just look! This lass is only 5’2″. If she can do it, you too have a chance.”

    • NYRick

      I mean this respectfully…you’re OK with Tymrak staying in Europe if it turns out that way, and another player having an opportunity to take her place in the NWSL? And you are indicating you are a KC fan?

      Wow. You are a pretty decent human being. Really, I mean that. But I hate to break it to you, players like Tymrak don’t come along often. You’ll soon find that out. That KC team is a lot less interesting without her.

      • Ron Bishop

        You don’t need to break it to me. I fully understand the transitory nature of soccer. No matter what level of soccer one watches, one should appreciate the “here and now” aspect of it. Soccer is about constant change – that’s why it’s so enjoyable. That’s why I have season tickets.

        I understand Tymrak’s talents and contributions to FCKC. I also trust FCKC to have the smarts and depth to be able to exist without her. FCKC recognized Tymrak’s potential and drafted her to begin with. FCKC traded away their 2nd highest scorer to adjust their game to a style compatible to Tymrak, Holiday, and Henderson. (I fully supported that, while many bemoaned that call.) FCKC will make whatever adjustments necessary – if needed.

        FCKC is getting a reputation as club to join if you want to become a better player. That’s awesome! It will attract even more talent.

        Sporting KC has had the same issues with Espinosa, Kamara, Zusi, and Besler. Now they have Saad, Uri, and Dwyer stepping up. Emerging stars are exciting and attract attention from the world market. Enjoy them while they are here. Perhaps they’ll stay (Besler and Kamara); perhaps they won’t (Espinosa).

        If I want the same old same old, I’d watch American baseball or American football. Small controlled markets and more or less the same teams each year.

        *Perhaps Tymrak wants to play on grass rather than a high school turf football field. It might make the drive to bring about a better venue burn a little hotter. :)

  • Ron Bishop

    IF the second player IS an FCKC goalkeeper – Barnhart OR Henninger – “Congratulations!” to them also. Both of them deserve the chance.

  • luke

    what’s she supposed to do for 6+ months? garden?

    • Steglitz49

      Gardening leave is a well established term in business, as is wanting to spend more time with one’s family.

    • kernel_thai

      I still like my idea of doing a deal with the Aussies.

      • Steglitz49

        A chain reaction?

  • K. Bauer

    Awesome signing for Bayern! All the talk is about Tymrak and she is a brilliant talent but watch out also for Sarah Hagen. With all the service she will be getting I think she will be very difficult to stop. I’m surprised by a lot of the negative comments. Bayern is a fine team in a powerful league. Tymrak is a young talent that needs to play. It seems as though some of the commentators feel she should just cool her heels until the N.W.S.L starts up again. I think her decision is good for her and for U.S. soccer.

    • wosofan

      Agree 100%. She needs to play. The NWSL season is limited in duration, so great for her to get some great learning and development in Germany. And Bayern seems to be a pretty good club to go to.

  • KD

    I am starting to wonder why we really need the NWSL. This is a legitimate question. If most of our top players want to play in foreign leagues, those leagues want to pay them top dollar, and they appear to be getting better development over there, what it the point of the NWSL? Wouldn’t it be better to let other clubs take that over for us? Let players find clubs that they think would be the best fit for them. Think of the money it would save the USSF, rather than subsidizing a league. We could just have longer camps, or have more friendlies. If USSF can’t get all of our top players to play here, then it doesn’t really seem like it is going to work. Maybe we need to reevaluate the necessity of having a pro league in the US.

    Now if the players are just playing for a couple of months to fill in the off season, but prefer the NWSL, than that is one thing. But it seems, based on some of the player comments, that they actually prefer foreign leagues over the NWSL for whatever reason (money, culture, playing style, etc).

    I am not understanding why everyone thinks the NWSL is essential.

    • K. Bauer

      I think there are a number of arguments for a women’s pro league. One argument is there is roughly 120 U.S. players playing in the league. It is unlikely that all 120 of these players would be able to find clubs overseas. Another point is many players may wish to stay in the U.S. They have family and friends as well as an understanding of the language. Also, what about keeping jobs in the U.S.? Okay, some players can play overseas but what about coaches, trainers, G.M.’s, etc… I think things are headed in a great direction. Our players can get great training here but if they so desire they can receive even more overseas. The final point is my biggest argument. I’m a fan. I love watching these games. I watched literally every single one. If we have no league what are fans supposed to watch? Go Panthers! Go Apple!

    • Eric Bauer

      I question the comment about players getting better development overseas. Many of the players who come from overseas teams, both foreigners and domestic players, have a much more difficult time in the NWSL. It is tougher to score, and there is more parity in the league. There may be no Lyon in the NWSL, but overall I believe it is going to be the most competitive league in the world.

      • kernel_thai

        U also hear how different the practices r in the US leagues. A lot of European players say the practices r too competitive in the US.

      • Reality

        The key phrase in your comment is “…going to be the most competitive league in the world”. Right now, it is not, although it has the greatest potential of any league in the world. The reason players give for seeking developmental experience overseas is because they can expand and refine their game in a way that is not currently possible in the U.S. I’m referring, of course, to a more technical possession style of play that demands excellent ball handling skills, great passing ability, and tactical teamwork and patience up the middle to create scoring opportunities. KC, under Andonovski, showed glimmers of that this season and Tymrak was the showcase to demonstrate its potential. I would assume that her desire to play with Bayern Munich will only increase her formidable skills.

        • Eric Bauer

          Don’t even get me started on the “more technical play in Europe” talk that seems to be going around ad-nauseum these days. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see it. I watch plenty of overseas games, and I watch our national team play, and I see foreign teams making all of the same mistakes we see in the US. I agree that patience is needed for teams in the NWSL, but I don’t see how going to Europe is going to solve that. The US beats all of these European teams, so we must be doing something right. And why do all of our players fit in well or start scoring gobs of goals the minute they get over there? It’s because they already have talent, and they tend to be going to very talented teams. If you look two or three rungs below Lyon, Tyreso, or Wolfsburg, you see teams struggling with the same problems you see over here. Those top teams are loaded with incredible talent (at the expense of the rest of their leagues), so they are not good examples of what is going on in Europe. When I look at the NWSL, I see a collection of incredibly technically proficient young women, and I have to say it makes me quite proud to see.

          • Reality

            Well, since you’ve already started, before you get too nauseous, let me point out that you’re distorting my comment and setting up a “straw man” argument. I was not arguing that U. S. players don’t have talent. We have the largest raw talent base in the world. That is why we have so much potential.

            Flag waving aside for a moment, the point I’m making is that our talented players would benefit by expanding and refining that talent in a milieu that supports and encourages possession play. It is a skill set that would expand and balance that talent. That’s why you see many of our best players taking advantage of the opportunity to play overseas. They obviously see value in refining their play. These players like Press, Rapinoe, Heath, and now Tymrak already have superior ball handling skills that help them to fit in well with the European possession style of play. They will ultimately benefit from these opportunities and so will the U. S. when they bring their improved skills and attitudes back home.

            It is essential for U.S. soccer culture to move beyond a reliance on the raw talents of speed and athleticism. Balancing those admitted virtues with skills derived from a possession style will enable more flexible play that can adjust to any challenge. This will keep the U.S. at the forefront of women’s world soccer.

            The key here is to provide more of these type of opportunities stateside so that our players don’t have to seek them abroad.

          • Steglitz49

            The issue is lack of glamour. Players like to win trophies. The most glamorous trophy is the ladies’ CL.

            Why do you think Pinoe signed with Lyon? Ali Krieger and Gina Lewandovski did the Treble with Frankfurt some years ago. All grist to the glamour mill.

            Maybe if the Mob-cast Cup gets thoroughly established, that trophy will trump the CL. In addition you have the national leagues and cups. Christen Press helped Gbg retain the domestic Cup and Sarah Hagen likewise for Bayern Munich. Marta helped Tyresö win the Swedish league, one which she had won many times with Umeå some years previously, as well as the CL.

    • Boston Red

      I think the question might be “do (all) our best players need to play in NWSL?” I think we would be better off if some of the top players did go overseas full-time. Focus the energies of the league on the players in hand and really be about development. Yes, the star power helps, but we’ve already seen a Tymrak and Franch, who might not have had an easy time getting overseas, blossom.

      And, the reality is, the market can’t absorb that many players, especially if they aren’t local players.

      • kernel_thai

        Tymrak said she was planning to go over seas if she didnt get drafted. A better question is does the same type of season get noticed by TS if she is not playing under his noise? Im glad she didnt play over seas so I dont have to hear this ridiculous notion of look how much Tymrak improved playing in Europe.

        • newsouth

          don’t think that’s the case with every player. pinoe with french mid-fielders and press as long striker with one club and marta with the next improved. i can’t say kling improved that much. engen is engen europe or wny. heath looks the same. it depends on the player and the situation.

          • Eric Bauer

            Press was awesome before she left (8 goals in her rookie season with Magic Jack) and was scoring out the gate for Gothenberg. Pinoe was in the best form of her life when she left for Lyon. All experience helps, but I don’t see any magic happening in Europe. Sometimes it’s just the change of venue, coaching, and teammates that helps, regardless of what part of the world it’s in.

          • NYRick

            That’s the truth on Press. She was good when she got there. With her Magicjack nightmare with coach Abby, her confidence took a hit and a change of scenery and a good coach and a professional environment has done wonders.

            This thought that our best young talent is getting “magically” great in Europe is a fallacy. They are great players to begin with going to stacked teams who are far superior to the rest of the talent in the league. It’s like putting LeBron back to play college ball.

          • newsouth

            I think they pick up bits and pieces to their games. Press more or less never shot with her left foot at stanford or magicjack, would do a 180 to get the ball to her right. now, she is taking balls out the air (half volleys) and striking. that’s very marta and erika (been doing volleys since the u20s), esp., very brazilian. as i’ve said, she gains more ground in her game playing with marta for two years going into the wc vs. playing in washington or chicago. they would allocate her to a slug team unless red bull buys into sbfu. pinoe’s field IQ is ridiculous since leaving lyons, she definitely isn’t the same sporadic player i saw in the wc and olympics. all i see with tymarek is her picking up the one-touch in germany but i don’t see anything else happening. she already has the physical usa physique. i thought japan or france would be a better match for her. as i’ve said, i haven’t seen any real difference with heath (doesn’t dribble into double teams as much but now is the yellow card queen), engen and kling. i doubt there are any improvements with kreiger and harris. maybe they learn how to do better interviews.

          • NYRick

            The funny thing about Press’ game is that even with the improvements you mention, and the obvious Marta influence which is greatly helping her…isn’t someone, anyone seeing what you, I and many others are seeing?

            There is a simple answer that I’ll give. Of course, they are. They are not stupid, and if you watch and understand the sport and how the game is played, you fully understand. But they are roadblocked by politics as to who plays. I’m so totally convinced of it. And it’s not just Press. Engen took forever for them to give her a look this year. Tell you what, if she’s one of the starting CBs in that semi vs. Canada last year instead of Buehler, Sinc is not going off like that.

            And now the main topic of the day, Tymrak. It’s so freakin obvious that this girl is a major star ready to explode. Yet the talk with the NT. Well, maybe for 2019. Are we seriously kidding? Put her on the pitch and let her play with the first team. They make it seem like you have to work somewhere for 10 years before you get a corner office or window. Sports doesn’t work that way. Never did. Except with this crazy, insane US program. The one that is forcing their top players to hone their skills in Europe, because they are too lazy to nurture, and allow their top young talent TO PLAY. So they watch HAO, Buehler, Boxx etc. etc. It’s madness.

          • Silver Frost

            If Boxx starts for WC-15, then we’ll know the fix is in at USSF.

          • newsouth

            here is the funniest thing someone said to me: press got subbed in a south korea game and didn’t score, so she didn’t do anything. wambach scored all those goals. LOL! that one killed me. btw, press should have the hardest time scoring of all the forwards because their offensive sets are designed for a big log target or throw possession and build out the window and go forward like they did against canada. it’s a wonder she is tied for scoring on the national team since she is played from the mid-field sometimes. i’m real interested in tymarek. here’s what i think: she’ll look bad with the current mid-fielders unless it is pinoe. she’s like the #1 or #2 draft pick in the nfl, so you have to nurture her for a year or 2, not a month month cap and a couple of worthless check collecting friendlies. she’ll get labeled as weak and can be pushed off the ball like they did becky edwards, another one with good technical skills. to keep her means to do some redefining of how the mid-field connects and reads movements. i can only see her doing well early and fast if they pair her with holiday and pinoe, mfers who read passing lanes well. you put her on the pitch with boxx, lloyd and oreilly and it will be a train wreck. they have a full schedule going into the new year, so it should be interesting.

          • Steglitz49

            Press’s coach at Gbg was one of the great strikers of his generation, one of the fabled “boys of 82″.

      • KD

        I think that if the league is to be a success, then we need to have our top talent playing here. What does it say about the league, and how can we get high quality internationals to play in the league, if our own players treat it as an inferior? How can you develop top quality players if you don’t have top quality play?

        The hard core fans will watch any players, whether or not they are on the national team, but how do you expect to grow a large fan base, when the players we saw and cheered for in the Olympics arn’t playing here? We need to have big names playing to get butts in the seats. Yes, Franch and Tymrak might be popular players now, but would anyone know or care about them if it wasn’t for Holiday and Wambach?

        I honestly think that if a professional league here in the US is going to work, then we need the NT players to by in. If they don’t want to play in the league, then what is the point? Why not just stick to the semi-pro leagues we already have and let player development happen overseas where many players want to play anyway?

        • titus

          Email all this to Ali Krieger.

        • newsouth

          hahaha, wambach has nothing to do with franch’s performance in the net. now, you can say the connection with holiday helped tymarek. then again, some people are trying to figure out is she holiday or cheney. here is one: did you notice cuellar because of holiday or her runs. really, holdiay isn’t the brandname you make her to be on the national team. it took me two years to figure out the difference between cheney and lloyd. they don’t come close to the big three on the squad. so tymarek would have been noticed without holiday on that squad, esp by the fans, maybe not by sermanni.

          • NYRick

            Hey, BTW do you think Sermanni finally got his Euro passport stamped? Hopefully, it’s made of archival paper or it’s going to fray and break off and crumble into dust.

          • Michelle

            I think the point in bringing up Wambach and Franch is that people tuned in or showed up to see Wambach and ended up noticing Franch, not that Wambach had anything to do with her goalkeeping success.

          • Elaine

            Well, Wambach may have a little something to do with Franch’s goalkeeping skills. Guess who’s peppering the net with shots and headers during practice, Abby. And I’m sure Carli is somewhere in the mix too.

        • Boston Red

          I think we will always have some players who elect to go to Europe. We have to make the NWSL as attractive as possible for them, but we can’t get upset that some percentage of the top players decide to play in another environment.

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear!

    • NYRick

      The NWSL is essential to the prosperity of US women’s soccer. US women soccer is essential to the prosperity of global women’s soccer. Call me overly patriotic or biased, but that’s kind of how the equation works.

      That’s why everyone was basically shiting Twinkies if the US team didn’t win Gold at the last Olympics. The sport was at stake. Don’t think so? Watch what happens if the NWSL becomes insignificant or a B-league (it’s on its way right now) the next two years.

      The best players in the world in any sport want to play in the best league…where the best players are. The NBA. The NFL. The EPL. The NHL. ML Baseball. Oh, all are in the US less one? Gee, what a coincidence.

      • luke

        “Any” sport? What does “NFL” or “MLB” even mean?

  • Commander WANK!!!

    Well Congrats to Erika Tymrak; Bayern München is a hell of a club, she is going to learn a lot, huge soccer culture right there, she will enjoy so much the beyond amazing Allianz Arena’s atmosphere when the men’s squad play Champions league or Bundesliga.

    • NYRick

      If Bayern is so good, why hasn’t Amber Brooks got an NT call yet? I’m not being snide or anything with the remark, just curious on your thoughts on that?

      • Commander WANK!!!

        IDK may be Amber Brooks, Sarah Hagen, Nikki Cross and Gina Lewandovski won’t keep playing there if Bayern wasn’t any good or ambitious at some point.

        We must think about player developpement and in my opinion Bayern Munich as a whole entity is one of the best school of soccer in Europe without a doubt.
        It is clearly not a mercenary decision by Tymrak, Bayern won’t be playing the major competition, this year. But this is clearly a bet for the future for Bayern because of course they will keep track of Tymrak evolution and it will be easier to lure her back afterwards. It will be up to Erika to follow or not. It will be up to Bayern to prove her that is worthwhile.

        One thing is sure, FCBM are determined they will play and win the CL one day and they would maintain its domination (like Women Barca want to) over European Women Soccer also in the long term. For many the CL is the best competition after a World Cup. But we are talking about nations where clubs culture is as strong as national team culture.

      • Boston Red

        Wasn’t Brooks called in for the June match against Canada? She was in for training, but wasn’t on the game day roster. She also trained with the team prior to their matches in Germany. She has been seen by Tom, which is the most important thing right now.

  • PANTHERTRACKS

    ERIKA WILL BE PLAYING FOR BM UNTIL DEC 15TH AND WILL THEN HEAD TO HER FAMILY HOME IN FLORIDA UNTIL PRESEASON IN MARCH IN KC. ERIKA IS VERY HAPPY PLAYING IN THE NWSL AND MORE IMPORTANT LOVES HER KC TEAMATES , COACHES, AND FANS. SHE IS EXCITED TO HAVE A CHANCE TO PLAY FOR A FEW MONTHS IN HER OFF SEASON FOR A GREAT SOCCER CLUB BM, WHILE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE HER GAME OF SOCCER . SHE IS CONTRACTED WITH KC FOR THE 2014 SEASON

    • titus

      Are you Angry?

    • Rufan

      Are you her personal spokesperson or just reading from a press release?

    • kernel_thai

      I am very glad to hear this and hope it is true. Hopefully she plays in NWSL for a long time.

    • Steglitz49

      Now we know. Thanks for telling us and keeping us right. Let’s see how it develops.

  • Diane (DeeG)

    Correct me, if you know I am wrong, but The NWSL individual teams own the “rights” to players. This is not the same as having them under contract. A team can still own the rights and not have the player play for them. All of this talk about Bayern buying Tymrak’s rights is very premature. I highly doubt FCKC would sell them, even if Bayern offered. It is much more likely she will be on loan to Bayern. And Henninger, as well.

    • Boston Red

      They have the players under contract for one (there’s a team option to extend coming up for most players). “Rights” are controlled only in the NWSL. BM could buy her contract, but the “rights” for the future may or may not stay with FCKC, depending on league rules.

  • SBfan

    These ladies have a physically finite career – so go make the money while you can where you can!

  • kernel_thai

    Here is a different way to look at it. People always tell me the USWNT and US players in general need to be more possession oriented. That we rely too much on athleticism and not enough on technical skill. Wouldnt keeping possession oriented players in the NWSL be a good way too do that? Yet where r they? Rapinoe is in Lyon and Heath at PSG. These two along with Tymrak r the best example of Americans playing highly technical soccer. Ill give u couple more. Beverly Goebel and Becky Moros have taken there technical style to INAC Kobe. The way to advance the US game to a more technical level isnt to have all its technical players playing elsewhere.

    • newsoouth

      of course it does. brazilians are terrible defenders both men and women but the men benefit by playing next to guys like sol campbell in series A, and they bring that to the NT, for example . pinoe’s football IQ and decision making have improved with the french mid-fielders. press has developed a left foot and a half volley most like from playing with marta. those traits weren’t there in college or the wps. like i said, she use to do a 180 to get the ball back to her right foot. the key is the NT. Tymarek picks up a bit of one touch ball in Germany but won’t touch the NT in 2015 unless there is an injury or preg. What does that have to do with Euro? The problems start on USA soil. BTW, Heath wouldn’t captain my mid-field. Good tricks but not always intelligent football. possession? that’s the advantage germany and japan have over the usa. if usa mid-fielders can retain possession deeper in the final 3rd that forces defenders to move up and opens up a boat load of 1v1 for forwards. a-rod proved my theory about possession. she gave japan fits. thick, compact and the ball stuck to her foot like glue against japanese defenders, who feasted off of morgan, wambach and bigger girls in the dispossession game. now, add the tymareks of the world to the mid-field who have very low dispossession rates against the likes of germany and japan. you just took away the one part of the game which allows them to stay neck and neck with the usa late in ball games. it’s not even close with forwards and the back-lines. i’d say guardians are a push. solo’s real advantage now is just she uses her legs well, almost like a third set of hands. 2015-2019 WCs on the books, but it won’t go down like that. btw, possession mid-fielders in the usa still have the athletic bodies like the thug counterparts boxx, lloyd and oreilly, pinoe, heath, tymarek and holiday aren’t exactly japanese size. so the team still doesn’t lose the physical advantage like some think

      • kernel_thai

        I cant understand why people do not believe Tymrak will play with in this cycle. If her game translates to the international level as well as it has to the pro level, and we wont know that until she has a few friendlies under her belt. I think she has a big role by Canada 2015. Now that doesnt mean she starts, but I definitely see her in the midfield rotation. The truth is, at many aspects of the game she is simply better than any other midfielder on the US team. If this is the case then I guess u were surprised that Marta played for the Brazilian team before 2008 because she was too young and had people ahead of her ; )

  • luke

    My tribute for the unique player:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMxBq4vEKiA

    • newsouth

      she’d create so many opportunities for the forwards it would be retarded, completely over-matches defensive mid-fielders, so the backs are sucked into hear. if he have press, morgan and sydney in front of her, it would be thanksgiving day on the backs. she’d be delivery free lunch to them all game. i convinced she could dribble around german and japan mid-fielders with getting dispossessed. now, lets talk the wambach. tymarek doesn’t deliver the balls above the waist so i’m not sure that combo works. as i also said, it would be a nightmare with lloyd, boxx and oreilly on the pitch with her. just watch them miss this chance up. she can beat out oreilly or mewis but will they give someone walking papers for her to be in the final 21. heath is a trick and let me see what i’m suppose to do next while tymarek is “the best play is over there but let me get past you first”. none of the current mid-fielders anticipate a play like her.

      • luke

        It’s like Barcelona playing monotonous, boring tiki taka for 5 minutes lulling their opponents to sleep and then – BOOM! Three quick passes with full pace and goal.
        She adapted to her game only the “boom” part. ;-))

  • tplant36

    This is probably the most confusing part of soccer to me. I’ve mostly been a fan of the international game and supported our national teams throughout the years, but only last year did I start watching club soccer.

    Great for Tymrak that she has an opportunity to continue playing at a high level. But why is this acceptable for so many players to go spend a few months at a team here and there? It doesn’t seem fair to the team that only gets a half season out of a player that could make a huge difference to them if she stayed for a full season.

    Heath and Rapinoe are prime examples of this. If Rapinoe had been with the Reign from the start, they could have had a completely different season (although she alone is not the only reason they turned things around, she was definitely a catalyst). Thorns had midfield problems all season that Heath could have been helpful to fix, and now she’s there and contributing in a big way and could (hopefully not) help them to a Championship.

    Now Krieger and Harris are in Sweden, and I’d be surprised if Krieger at least didn’t try to stay there based on her comments. I think the players should commit to ONE team and if they can’t give them a full time commitment, they shouldn’t be there. I don’t think Rapinoe should be taking up an allocated slot to play half a season in Seattle either (or Heath if she’s heading back to PSG to do the same, which seems likely given she was left on the USWNT roster). Just my opinion.

    • KD

      I agree with this. I don’t know much about soccer. I don’t follow the men’s game. I don’t follow or know anything about European soccer. I just really enjoyed watching our NT players at the WC and Olympics, and was excited to see them playing club soccer here in the US. So I followed along best I could. Now I find out that that the players I like may not be here next year, or not for the whole year, and it isn’t a big deal? I think this is unique to soccer, but I do find that it is very odd. I am learning that it is very hard to be a casual fan, or to come in without much history of how this sport works.

      • Steglitz49

        It is quite normal outside of USA even in the ladies game for soccer players to move about. The driving force is nearly always money.

        Why do you think Lotta Schelin and Laura Dieckmann play in Lyon, Kosse Asllani for PSG, Yuki Ogimi and Sofia Jakobsson moved to Chelsea, and why Saki Kumagai moved from Frankfurt to Lyon and Nilla Fischer to Wolfsburg? Lindsey Horan to PSG is an even more obvious example.

        Glory and fame is not far second. The cookie did not crumble Pinoe’s way but Tobin helped PSG qualify for the CL. Paris in moonlight is not bad either.

  • kernel_thai

    Well u can add this to the discussion…Rapinoe wont be playing against Mexico due to injury…she has been replaced by Vanessa DiBernardo. In my book that makes the starting outside mid HAO and Tymrak…welcome to the USWNT Erika.