Canada’s role in NWSL in 2015 still undetermined

Jeff Kassouf January 23, 2014 115

Sources tell The Equalizer that Canada plans to go into residency ahead of the 2015 World Cup. (Photo Copyright Harjeet Johal for The Equalizer)

Sources tell The Equalizer that Canada coach John Herdman plans to bring the team into residency camp ahead of the 2015 World Cup. The camp would preclude Canadian national team players from participating in NWSL in 2015 until after the tournament.

No plans are yet finalized. An official Canada Soccer Association spokesperson said the federation’s role in the National Women’s Soccer League in 2015 remains to be determined, calling it “premature” to talk about next year.

This comes on the heels of Thursday’s unveiling by the Canadian Soccer Association of their strategic plan for 2014-18, where the goal of being a “leading soccer nation” by 2018 was reverberated. Specifics regarding the women’s national team were not discussed at the press conference in Toronto.

Reached Tuesday, an official spokesperson from the Canadian Soccer Association said the discussion of Canada’s role in the league in 2015 is under review:

As founding partners in the NWSL, Canada Soccer and USSF have an open discussion every year on each federation’s players participation in the league. This discussion around Canada’s participation in 2015 has started. However, we feel this second year of operation (2014) is crucial for the eventual success of the league and for us to see what comes out of it, and as such will be our focus at this time. The NWSL has been a positive initiative so far, both for the Canadian Women’s National Team program and the generation of momentum for women’s soccer in North America.

One of the impetus for Canada Soccer joining forces with USSF in the creation of NWSL was the hosting of the upcoming FIFA Women’s World Cup Canada 2015. Canada Soccer is committed to making the FIFA Women’s World Cup Canada 2015 a successful event on and off the field. It is still too premature to determine the format for the NWSL in 2015.

NWSL executive director Cheryl Bailey said at Friday’s draft in Philadelphia that she was unaware of any forthcoming changes to Canada’s role in the NWSL. Canada, along with the United States and Mexico, funds its national team players’ NWSL salaries outside of team salary caps and helped found the NWSL in late 2012.

“We had 16 players from Canada last year, we have 16 players this year,” she said, counting Desiree Scott and Lauren Sesselmann in the number, who she says are under contract, though the players dispute that. “We’re all excited to be involved with the World Cup in Canada next year and we have absolutely no information that anything will change with Canada.”

CSA general secretary Peter Montopoli, president Victor Montagliani and director & chair of strategic committee director Nick Bontis delivered the strategic plan, during which they shared publicly their intent to bid for the 2026 World Cup. The publicly revealed plan can be found here.

The four-point plan for the men’s and women’s programs, which was based off a survey that was 66 percent male and 34 percent female, is as follows:

1 — Invest in technical leadership

2 — Consistency of players, developed through semi-professional leagues

3 — Encourage and oversee the growth of the game in Canada (included: “by successfully hosting” the U-20 Women’s World Cup and the 2015 Women’s World Cup)

4 — Govern the game in Canada professionally, in collaboration with our partners

  • kernel_thai

    Of course this makes no sense at all. They simply need to make a decision so that other decisions can be made.

    • Ben

      I can already picture what will happen in 2015. Ofcourse Chuck Vine will be on twitter proclaiming that his players are in residency by NWSL will be like, nah, they will play in NWSL

  • Silver Frost

    Good riddance. NWSL can replace them with EU players, or Brazilians at the drop of a hat, or give more American women a chance.

    • Ben

      I don’t think it’s good riddance or anything like that. I just think it would be good if they will make their decisions now so that club GMs can start looking for potential replacements

    • wosofan

      I sort of feel the same way. However, I do think the NWSL should take a long break around the World Cup — suspend the season for 8 weeks around the World Cup time.

    • gerd karl

      why should a european player play in the nwsl, 5 month playtime, little money, no tactic and technic in the play.

      • nwslfan

        you asked Angerer. oh wait, she’s not taking your calls or tweets ?? pop up contest: #givebestresponse2troll

        • romel dias

          i tried..but my toes karled up!

      • wosofan

        Ask one of Europe’s best midfielders, Kim Little.

        • Steglitz49

          One of. Yes. But hardly among the really best? She is leaving Arsenal Ladies when they are still in the run for the Champions League. Such loyalty. Or, is she another late arrival?

          It is easy to forget that Canada beat Gbr 2-0 in the QF of the Olympics. Scotland did not play in neither WC-11 nor Euro-13 though they look like qualifying for WC-15.

          • romel dias

            Hardly among the best!? whoa..the only problem is Little plays for Scotland which isn’t a high profile name in soccer..forget womens soccer…yet the girl was scouted at the age of 15 by Arsenal..the best team in England by a long shot.

            The two years that Little played at Hibernian L.F.C a small team in Scotland…the team made it to the Champions League in both those years. During the 2006–07 season, Hibernian won every match with Little scoring 55 goals in her 30 appearances for the club.

            She was signed and immediately started for the first team for the Gunners when she was 17 and has played 6 years at the club at the highest level including Champions League football. On her signing..Arsenal manager Vic Akers told reporters: “Make a note of this kid, she’s going to be a big player.”

            In the 2009-10 season Little scored 47 goals in all competitions, the team finished the regular season in first place with a 20–1–1 record

            At the 2011 FA Women’s Cup Final, Little was named Player of the Match and scored the opening goal in Arsenal’s 2–0 win over Bristol Academy. After the game Arsenal manager Laura Harvey described Little as “world class.”

            This year Little was voted women’s player of the year for 2012–13 by the Professional Footballers’ Association, in the first year that the award had been made.

            ‘Hardly among the best!?’ you are speaking about a player Harvey has just moved heaven and earth for!

          • Sydonia

            She’s a bit small for NWSL play, but we’ll see. I’m afraid Lloyd and Tancredi are going to smash her.

          • bertiedav

            she’s a couple inches bigger than jess. she’ll be fine.

          • romel dias

            Maradona was small…boom!

          • Steglitz49

            He was a cheat.

          • http://suckabigone.com George de la Fressange

            Messi is small and is no cheat, Neymar is small and is no cheat.. You do NOT have a point other than maybe the odd chance that you are an OLD English man (cause only old people care about 1986) and you are still sore about that England game. Kim Little has DOMINATED the best women’s league in the world , which is the NWSL . DOMINATED. She was voted 3 times player of the month and is a sure fit for league MVP next week.. You do NOT have a point

          • Ben

            Philly in the WPS was successful with a lot of small mids. Boguete being the prime example

          • http://suckabigone.com George de la Fressange

            Uhhhmm..where are your predictions about Lloyd and Tancredi smashing her now?? Have you followed the league at all this year? She has been DOMINANT! MVP of the month 3 months out of a 4 month tournament. There is just one game left to play in the regular season and she is the unquestionable winner of league MVP. Top goal-scorer and simply dominant overall.. Is she a bit small for NWSL play? or is her talent a bit too huge?

          • bertiedav

            Kim will be with SR from the start of the season. I’d really love to know where your loyalty dig comes into the equation? she was at Arsenal for 5 years, she didn’t move to another WSL team.

            Just because a country doesn’t have a good record with regards to qualifying for Euros/WC doesn’t mean that certain players aren’t worthy of high praise for their abilities as an individual.

          • Steglitz49

            Scotland will qualify for WC-15 unless Sweden wake up out of their torpor. Sweden might still qualify in one of the play-offs as lucky losers. If Scotland does not qualify this time round it will be the upset of 2014.

          • bertiedav

            You’re completely underestimating Sweden, they’ve always finished top of their group for wc qualifiers and I’ve no reason to think this year will be any different. Their biggest test will most likely be against the Scots, but Scotland definitely struggle against good attacking teams. Their defence isn’t as strong as their attack, similar to Spain if you want a comparison to a team you might be more familiar with. If Sweden don’t finish top of the group *that* will be a big upset.

          • Tom F

            Agree there, once they play each other, Sweden should be on top. Scotland let Chile score 3 goals on them in about 30 minutes and didn’t look impressive at all in their 4 game loss at the recent Brazilian tourney.
            For either team though, it’s best to try and avoid 2nd place, group as only the top 4 with the best records out of 7 teams have a chance to go to the playoffs for just one remaining spot.
            Pia blew the game against Germany in the Euro semis. Instead of putting in the way faster Jakobsson on the left winger side(who would of caused devastation on the sometimes undefended German flanks, instead she decided to go with the slow pope, Goranson(who showed no inkling to go on the attack).
            Don’t know either about Allsani? as hot as she looks, she can be as cold as ice in important games. Sweden might need to look for a stronger partner upfront with Shelin

          • bertiedav

            + to your additional comment, Little signed with SR before the draw, so I’m not quite following why you’re bringing it up?

          • Steglitz49

            Indeed. The day before the draw as I remember. What were the odds of Potsdam and Wolfsburg ending up in he same side? Makes one wonder what sort of inducements that Seattle have up their sleeves.

          • bertiedav

            Little has stated several times since the move that she always considered the USA to be her destination of choice if she were to leave the WSL. Playing under Laura Harvey again was just an extra pull.

          • kernel_thai

            Well one of the main reasons Arsenal was in UEFA CL was Little. Secondly she left at the end of her contract…unless ur say no player should ever leave their team for loyalty reasons. Also half the Arsenal team has made a break for it so it’s not fair to single her out. Lastly, since she is taking a big pay cut to move that puts her in the top 1% class wise in my book.

          • Ben

            Top 0.1% for me. What makes it amazing is that unlike someone like Angerer who is also taking a pay cut to play here, she is at the height of her career.

          • Steglitz49

            Time will tell. What other inducements there might be, we can only speculate about.

          • kernel_thai

            Well if she likes rain every day she’s all set.

          • Steglitz49

            I have been to Seattle a dozen times and I do not remember rain. I remember fog though.

            Seattle is in a glorious setting and if you like the great outdoors it can hardly be bested. The food, social and cultural life is top notch too. The weather might remind her of Scotland, but the rest is likely a big improvement.

          • http://suckabigone.com George de la Fressange

            Time TOLD .. She has been the most dominant player in the league, unquestionably. The only other player that could have given her a run for her money “IF” she had played the whole season, which she didn’t, was Vero Boquete that only started to play for the Thorns in mid to late June, at the last third of the season. Other than that, Kim Little has been dominant, top goal-scorer and surely the league’s MVP.. Obviously, time TOLD.

          • Tom F

            England’s league wasn’t that pretty to look at last year(you could say almost on par as their NT’s Euro performance, lol). The league mvp should of gone to a 21 year old German winger named Nicole Rolser. She finished 2nd in league scoring for the champs, Liverpool. She got several pk’s but wasn’t allowed to take them, otherwise she would of topped league scoring standings. Unfortunately she’s not getting much attention back in her home country as Neid has not yet invited her to play for the German NT and sat majority of the time on the bench at last year’s u20 wc tourney

          • Steglitz49

            I think that was the reason she moved.
            Legaues differ in how they handle goals from penalties. Some count them but if two players end up with the same goals, they disregard the pks. Others do not count them.

      • kernel_thai

        Maybe they want to play 24 competitive games in a season instead of six. Maybe they want to play against other pros instead of semi pro teams. Maybe their a little worried that in the last two big tournaments all Europe managed was one bronze from Sweden.

      • Justin Prazak

        I don’t think gerd is aware that US women form the best national team in the world.

  • gerd karl

    the nwsl is 2015 doomed
    a league with 5 month play time is a…………………….
    sorry, joke

    • ctsmith73

      The gerd karl is doomed
      a man with nothing original to offer but baiting posts is a……………
      sorry, troll

      • gerd karl

        after wwc 2015 establishes canada its own league.
        than is the nwsl doomed, little troll.

        • STT

          Canada can’t even establish its own men’s league, and you think they’ll get to establishing a women’s league??
          PS – even if it’s just five months, it’s still more games than they play in countries like, oh, Germany.

          • ruby4

            I felt that sting through my computer.

          • gerd karl

            the clubs in germany plays in a season 132 games+german cup games+champions league , http://www.framba.de

            but the nwsl have no league cup, no champions league
            and after the wwc 2015 no canadian player
            canada has 2015 its own league.

          • FootyCanuck

            Good point. Unfortunately, it distracts from the comment about Canada’s potential for creating a Pro Women’s league. Despite hosting a WWC, we won’t have the critical mass necessary (players or fans) to form a $$ league. Canadian teams added to NWSL is the way to go. As for 2015, Canada, the US and Mexico will all need to have a break in the NWSL schedule.

          • alex mahn

            Wolfsburg had last season 35 games (DFB- Pokal,Bundesliga,CL) this is the reason why we have only 22 league games + the games with the national team

          • STT

            Ah, I forgot about the other cups, even if they aren’t guaranteed games, especially for the not-top teams. Good point though, I derp’d.

          • Steglitz49

            The English lasses have two cups — the FA cup and also the Continental cup, named after the German tyre company that sponsor it. Cups galore! Cups coming out of your ears. But, cups nevertheless.

          • kernel_thai

            The cups r great for second division teams and teams in the bottom half of the table, but serve no purpose for the top teams. Just more weak sisters to beat up.

          • Steglitz49

            Don’t disdain the humble FA Cup. The ladies’ may only be 40 years old but if it had not been for the men’s, we would not have soccer as we know it today. On such small margins everything turned.

            About 280 teams entered this season’s ladies’ FA Cup while 740 the men’s.

          • Elaine

            Time for a Super World Club Cup!! Come on FIFA Task Force for Women’s Football….let’s make this a reality.

          • Steglitz49

            FIFA are probably waiting and observing how the MobCast Cup develops. When there is a dog, why bark yourself?

          • kernel_thai

            Doesnt Wolfsburg play Sao Jose this Spring as the next blow struck towards a real women club championship?

          • Steglitz49

            Hear hear!

          • Tom F

            The one problem though with the Bundesliga(or even Lyon/France) you got 10-12 NT players on both Frankfurt & Wolfsburg, and almost none on the other 10 teams in the league. Some of those others like Potsdam, Jena & Bayern Munich are stacked with foreigners in order to be competitive. Others like Bayer Leverkusen are almost 100% German but with 0 NT’s only get to play once every 2 weeks, or just play 22 games per season. I was surprised that unlike the men’s side, the women’s Bundesliga would take sometimes 3 weeks break during the fall season so that the NT team can play during the weekend. That’s great for the ladies that made the NT. but for the vast majority of league players, their just stuck waiting on the sidelines

        • Steglitz49

          Canada only care about ice-hockey — and only when they are winning. Canadians are like the Germans, they are bad losers.

          • Gunther Netzer-Kant

            Steglitz49, I thought you have humor, class and style. I thought….

      • Steglitz49

        The trolls are getting an awfully bad press of late. Is there any evidence that the trolls came from Germany?

        • Misery

          their names just google them or go on twitter do a search on their names. They’re from Germany.
          I don’t even know why they’re here in the first place it doesn’t mention anything about Germany or Europe it’s about Canada and yet here they are getting defensive.
          It’s embarrassing.Why are you people here always putting down the NWSL/North American players. You people must really feel threatened. Notice they don’t make a fuss about the Aussie league or Nadeshiko league or any other league.

          • STT

            Maybe not “threatened” but jealous? It’s not like the German NT is better than the USWNT, and Germany aren’t even a 100%-dominant European power on club or country. But yeah, it’s a little frustrating how much karl and others (mostly karl) post really stupid comments about the US game and none others. Honestly I love the informed, reasonable Germans like mann and Steg, but karl and the German trolls (who seem to be hear on EQZ and none of the other major soccer sites, at least that I’ve noticed) are real bumps in the road.

          • gerd karl

            for the 8 time in succession european champion 2013, not bad germany

          • gerd karl

            oh, sorry i forget
            vfl wolfsburg women, german champion 2013, german cup winner 2013, champions league winner 2013

            german women national team, for the eight time european champion 2013

            u-17 german national team is european champion 2013

            germany is the 100% dominant european power.

          • STT

            1) Arguing using just one year’s worth of titles is tunnel vision to the extreme
            2) You ‘conveniently’ ignored the fact the U-19’s didn’t even make their 2013 final.
            3) lol Why include the domestic titles in your list? They don’t help your point at all.
            4) I see you misunderstand 100%. If they were 100%, German teams would ALWAYS beat non-German teams, EVERY match. Germany’s 2013 Euro was its weakest ever, including a loss and a draw, and only one game where they scored more than once. As mentioned above, the U-19’s failed to make the final in 2013 – and 2012, 2010, 2009… And the U-17 team actually bombed out of the official 2013 championship, the title you mentioned was officially for 2014 even if it was played completely in 2013 – a title which the Germans had a loss along the way, too. And a non-German team has eliminated a German team in EVERY CL since the ’10-’11 season, including a VERY early exit for Potsdam in ’12-’13. Not 100% dominant.

          • gerd karl

            100% dominant, german women football is the best, ever
            german u-19 third place in the european champion chip
            german u-20 qualified for the wwc 2014 in canada

            the german u-19 must harder fight as the us u-20
            german u-19 plays against, sweden, france, italy, norway.

            the us u-20 plays against trinidad and tobago, costa rica, jamaica.

          • gerd karl

            megan rapinoe won not the champions league
            bad bad turbine potsdam and bad bad vfl wolfsburg

          • Steglitz49

            No-one is putting down the NWSL. The NWSL must succeed for the health of the ladies game. Women of the world need the NWSL, even if they do not understand it.

            Were the NWSL to fail, it will prove that women’s pro-soccer has no independent existence, that it will continue to subsist on hand-outs and hand-me-downs and rinds of cheese and crusts of bread not to forget the crumbs from the rich men’s tables.

            For ladies’ football to flourish, the NWSL must flourish!

          • Gunther Netzer-Kant

            I just recommend to ignore Gerd-Karl. But the following may provide you relief: Gerd-Karl is also bothering folks on German soccer blogs

            By the way: There is just one Gerd-Karl….

          • Ben

            Why? They are not worshipping Goessling enough or is it just an equal opportunity troll?

          • Gunther Netzer-Kant

            According to him everybody who recognises improvement needs or criticises anything on German soccer is a “German-hater”.

          • gerd karl

            what could you criticize the german football in 2013? nothing

            men
            fc bayern münchen, german champion 2013, german cup winner 2013, champions league winner 2013.

            women
            vfl wolfsburg, german champion 2013, german cup 2013, champions league winner 2013

            the women national team is for the 8 time european champion 2013
            the german u-17 is european champion 2013.

            the german football was 2013 very good.

          • gerd karl

            as a football expert, i give my opinion

          • truth be told

            Picking two Bayern greats for your user name does not an expert make. Could you please inform us what makes you more qualified than us mere mortals? Seriously if youreally are commenting from a higher plane tell us so.

          • Steglitz49

            I have heard of a Karl Gerhard but not a Gerd Karl. Gerhard was a review king, as they were known, though i think that in his case it was a stage name.

          • Terry Lash

            Very sensible advice. Clearly Germany has world class women’s soccer both in terms of NT and clubs. I hope other countries aspire to Germany’s accomplishments. There will be a healthy competition between Germany and the USA NTs. One of these countries will not always dominate the other. We should enjoy the competition and cheer players on both teams.

        • Troll Hunter

          Many types of trolls Steg. I like the giant ones up north.

          • Steglitz49

            It is true that most people’s images of trolls are based on the watercolours and designs of John Bauer, who died about 100 years ago when the steamer he was traveling on sank in a sudden storm on a rift valley lake. Like Luciaday and Midsummer, trolls seem part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in Pia’s homeland.

          • Gunther Netzer-Kant

            (Too) Much Ado About Gerd-Karl

          • gerd karl

            as a football expert, i’m just saying the truth

          • Steglitz49

            Touché!

          • Tom F

            I try to converse with German fans at another site for women’s soccer(Big Soccer), and it’s almost impossible to start any real dialog over there. The moment I’ll misspell something it’s blah, blah, blah “you made a mistake” Also got a bunch of snobby french men that start a ‘hissy fit’ on almost anything. For instance; I wrote how Johanna Elsig is right now the Bundelsiga’s most under rated player, and really good looking to boot, and right away I get attacked for supporting a racist(since in one game ‘in the heat of the moment’ unfortunately she might of spurted something bad to a Japanese player). Or tell them that Linda Dallamnn has the ability to become the best player in the world, and bingo, I’m pretty much called a stalker!

            So Gerd’s one track mind or simple mindedness is a ‘breath of fresh air’ compared to the intellectual demigods of another forum.(at least in my book!)

        • gerd karl

          yes, i’m german but not a troll.
          i’m football expert.
          for the americans is all, AWESOME
          the nwsl is 1 year old and for the americans is she the best league in the world.

          this is not true.

          the nwsl is the 3 experimental build a pro league.
          the german league is 23 years old
          the swedish league is 25 years old

          falls of ussoccer a third time, then the whole football world will laugh.

          • clioamare007

            It’ll take some time for NWSL to grow. It’s one of competitive leagues for many players right now. I couldn’t begin to compare NWSL model with Bundesliga model. Women’s soccer in US has to compete with other major sports such as football and basketball. I don’t see what good it is for you to demean this league and call it as a joke.

            I personally don’t care for your generalization of “Americans.” Many American fans, like me, think this league has a long way to go and we’ll do our very best to support it. We’re hard on our federation and we expect the best as always. Sometimes our hands are tied, but we speak up as we can. I’m grateful that we’re even here to discuss how to grow the game and improve this particular league.

          • Steglitz49

            Your points are well taken. Ladies football in the US — strictly speaking from the southern border of Mexico to the northern tip of the Yukon and Newfoundland if we are talking the NWSL — has the problem of distance and population.

            Essentially the NWSL is like UEFA should only have 9 top teams for the whole of UEFA whereas 54 teams enter the Champions League and they in turn come from the domestic leagues of usually 12 teams each, maybe 100-150 teams in all.

            You have to start somewhere and the principles of the team salary cap coupled with the draft is a great principle. Europe does not have the the whole wonderful NCAA (thank you Mr Eponymous Bear president) and Title IX (thank you someone else), the more is the pity.

            Women’s soccer the world over needs the NWSL. The USWNT’s consistently high ranking suggests that the USWNT can cope without it.

          • gerd karl

            usa, world champion 1999
            germany, world champion 2003, 2007
            germany hve a very good women football system

            and the uefa, champions league with 54 teams, is very good

            the bad teams learn from the good teams
            the bad teamd play better and better, this is the system.

            in the usa no salary caps, a american football player can 150 million dollar in 5 years become.
            a basketball player can 100 million dollar in 5 years become.
            peyton manning 11,9 million dollar per year
            this is no salary cap.

            salary cap is in the usa, young and new players for 6000 dollar, slave-vage, in the nwsl to play.

  • ruby4

    20 bucks says they pull all there players for a full time residency and World War WoSo begins.

  • nwslfan

    WWC 2015 will challenge all summer club leagues, but this is not the first time this challenge has existed. NWSL should look to how other leagues dealt with this challenge, starting with WWC 2011.
    side note- EQZ, are you doing gotcha journalism or is Bailey doing this all on her own? I don’t favor NWSL money spent on a communications specialist, but geez, yet again Bailey has managed to come off ridiculous in the press.

    • Rdalford

      Agree that WWC 2015 will effect NWSL. In 2011 the WPS teams released NT players for various WWC 2011 prep camps but NT players were often impacted by travel and scheduling conflicts. Hopefully the NWSL schedule can anticipate the various NT team needs for pre WWC 2015 camps and perhaps shift / shorten / otherwise adjust the NWSL schedule for 2015.
      re side note – does look like a little bit of gotcha journalism using Friday’s quote from Bailey to contrast with new info obtained from Canada this week – would have expected at least an attempt to get reaction quote from Bailey rather than using old quote. That said, Bailey has not yet demonstrated a strong or proactive press communications plan.

  • KT5000

    It would be good momentum for the league to play a late summer-fall season after WWW ’15. With such a short season, I don’t see how it’s so challenging to just shift it, or split it into two sessions.

    • rufan

      Will not a fall/split season have the same problems that WPS found?, that in the Fall players want to get back to schools to finish their degrees, get coaching jobs, or get into the European leagues.

      • TsovLoj

        It’ll be a mess, no doubt, but I think fall or split season is still probably the best bet.

      • KT5000

        Yes, likely.

        However, the current season schedule already conflicts for students in the spring months (and I’m not aware of a large portion of NWSL players in school), and conflicts with many European (& other international) leagues.

        The real difference I see for the fall is for those with coaching jobs. Perhaps, for only the WWC year, those players could be granted leave for that portion of the season without completely losing their contracts. Seems like a decent trade-off in order to play your season with all your NWSL players who are competing in the WWC.
        How early would the season have to start to finish ahead of WC camps?

    • STT

      Five months is still hard to shift when there’s something dead in the middle of it to “avoid”. If you want to not start until after the WWC, that means you’re playing into November. Not only will you be competing with MLS playoffs, American football at all levels, and I think hockey, you’re really cutting into players’ opportunities for offseason jobs or other playing opportunities overseas.

      • Guest

        How about starting the season a bit earlier? MLS starts in March so I don’t see why the NWSL can’t do the same, if only for the next few years during the WC/Olympics.

        • STT

          A split season is definitely more viable than a straight-up shift, but I honestly see NWSL doing what WPS did in ’11 – no break, just a lull.

        • ruby4

          I actually think that would be a great idea. No reason they couldn’t move there preseason up and start earlier.

          • STT

            Except that means even less time for players finishing school or coming from a European league.

          • ruby4

            Yeah but lets be realistic, no matter how they do it someone is going to get shafted. It’s just about minimizing that to as few players as possible.

  • FCKCEvans

    I’m certainly glad they are making plans for next year, when the federation can’t even come out with a statement saying whether or not Scott and Sesselmann are playing in the NWSL THIS season. CSA never ceases to confuse me.

    • STT

      I bet Chuck Vine is making it quite a messy legal issue, i.e. probably going into real courts outside of soccer, so I wouldn’t expect a statement on Scott/Sesselmann until one party was more confident on the result.

      That said, I agree the CSA is certainly having their handling of WoSo being embarrassingly exposed recently – the Vine issue, the long delay in getting Quon available, playing the WWC on all turf, etc.

  • Random

    No decision has been made b/c no scheduling decision has been made for 2015. Why would Canada participate in NWSL in 2015 if they plan to have a residency camp and the NWSL ended up not taking much of a break for the WWC? My guess is all the federations are having a discussion about what their plans are for WWC how that could effect the NWSL and what they should do about the schedule. Early discussions = no decisions yet

    • Steglitz49

      The NWSL would needs have to take a break for the WC. With 23 American and the Canadian and Mexican lasses out for the tournament, who would pay 5 red cents to attend a match? Nerds?

      • thankful

        So we can count on you being there.

        • nwslfan

          boom! couldn’t resist eh? c’mon, take the troll challenge in the thread.

          • Steglitz49

            Thank you for your support. To put a positive spin on the comment, I think that “thankful’s” point is that given the depth and width and height of the US ladies talent pool, one might not notice the absence of 23+ players because the standard will remain jolly high.

            After all, the NWSL is 9 teams while the the Champions League offers 54 slots and those teams come from the domestic leagues in UEFA, tons of teams, and even the humble FA Cup had 280 entries this time (the men’s had 740).

          • Nwslfan

            Stegs, like you and like your input. Even the forsooth stuff. But you left a hanging curveball to be crushed out of park. I was admiring Thankful’s wit. All in fun. Cheers.

    • kernel_thai

      Undoubtedly but WC 2015 didnt just sneak up on them. If ur starting a league in 2013 part of the planning should have included what happens in 2015. This is the problem with having the feds run a league. The league will always come second.

      • Terry Lash

        Agree. The US NT involvement from the beginning should have been seen for what it was: extended training for NT players, as well as an opportunity for other players to make a case for their selection for the NT. In other words, NT participation should never have been seen as the long term financial model for a professional league. The NWSL also was not set up with the intention to be the “best” professional league in the world. More money is required for players in order to achieve that result. US Soccer financial help needs to go away eventually and my guess it will end no later than 2016 after the next summer Olympics. The best option for long term financial viability of NWSL is association with MLS teams. Hopefully, Portland and Houston will prove to other MLS teams that supporting women’s professional teams is worthwhile.

        • nwslfan

          did we see USSF’s rationale and participation any differently? league was thrown together in short order and having a pro league in USA is EXCELLENT for woso. It is not surprising USSF asserts its agenda in 2014 and 2015, but I don’t think USSF wants NWSL to burn and crash in 2015, that is so short term. Everyone agrees NWSL must begin to stand on its own–gain independence– financially and otherwise. clearly 2014 is a critical year. NWSL must push an agenda best for itself in order to survive long term. THAT is in best interests of US woso and frankly should be recognized by the brain trust at USSF. I have growing doubts about execution and leadership of league, ahem, Bailey, particularly if league administration remains entirely beholden to USSF. When NWSL matures and stabilizes, an appropriate relationship with the US federation should look more like MLS’s, IMO.

      • Random

        Exactly, it didn’t but it they’ve always known about it, seems last minute is the way the NWSL is run…

  • LBR

    It doesn’t matter what Canada does, the 2012 Olympics were a fluke.
    And their nwsl players are replaceable.

    • Tom F

      totally disagree here. Canada is one of the world’s best teams(or at least deserving of it’s #7 rankings). They probably the most physical, roughest team in the world(in the legal context of a game). But they going to lack depth, so not always going to shine in so called friendlies as Herdman does have to experiement with new players like the 15 year old Fleming.
      Look for Canada to be strong though come tournament time. and especially in front of their home fans at wc 2015. While they have a rugged midfield with the likes of Schmidt, Scott & Kyle Matheson, they really need a sort pf play maker in the mold of Tymrak, then watch out!

    • http://suckabigone.com George de la Fressange

      It’s not about the players. It’s about the MONEY! That Canada soccer contributes! This league needs that money. If “at the drop of a hat” was how things worked, then the previous leagues would have never folded. That money is crucial for this league.(This league is funded by a joint effort by the National US, Canadian and Mexican soccer federations if you didn’t know).. Brazilian players??? pfff .. Brazil doesn’t even support its very own players and..do you think they will contribute any money to fund this league? The Europeans? Sweden’s club Tyreso FF was Champions league runner up and they still went bankrupt. The Europeans have their own leagues to fund and deal with.. They are not stupid to fund their direct competitor and most bitter rival, which is the US at the women’s national team level. It’s like the NY Yankees funding the Boston Red Sox. Nonsense. It’s the MONEY.. Not the players

  • Wildchild

    Why can’t they hold the draft on December 14th (on a Sunday). Start pre-season on January 3rd (on a Saturday) (training camp and 3 games on the 11th, 18th, & 25th ~sundays~). Start reg-season on January 30th (on a Friday) – May 14th (4 days of rest between each game). Semi-Final on May 23rd (on a Saturday). Final on May 30th (on a Saturday). There will be at least 7 US allocated players playing on their club teams 90% of the time because not all will make the 18 player roster. Every player gets a chance to play on all teams. We, hopefully, get a victory tour after the WC. And 2015 full of woso. Or just split the season.

    • Wildchild

      *3 days rest between games not 4

    • rufan

      How many fans will come out for games in Feb. & March in Boston, NJ, Chicago, KC?

      • Wildchild

        IDK. Just making suggestions. Fans come out to american football games despite the weather. It will be year 3 of NWSL and a WWC year people will be excited. Or they can just split the season.

    • Ben

      Here’s a radical idea, have games earlier in the year and host all games entirely on the west coast or some other warm location and split the revenue amongst the teams.

  • Lorehead

    Goal two, “Consistency of players, developed through semi-professional leagues,” doesn’t bode well for the NWSL.