De Vanna, Perez find new homes during trade flurry

Meg Linehan March 3, 2014 170

De Vanna scored on this bicycle kick against the Boston Breakers last summer. This year, she'll be in their uniform.

The Boston Breakers have picked up Australian international Lisa De Vanna from Sky Blue FC in exchange for a 2014 international spot and a first-round pick in the 2015 NWSL College Draft. Despite indicating she might not play in the National Women’s Soccer League in 2014 to focus on her career with the Matildas, Boston apparently was able to persuade her to return to the States for another year.

“I am delighted to be joining the Boston Breakers this season and cannot wait to arrive to start the new campaign,” De Vanna said. “I played against Boston last season and saw that they are a young team with lots of talent, so I hope with my experience and the recruiting of new head coach Tom Durkin and moving to the famous Harvard Stadium sets us up for the challenge of winning the league this season.”

De Vanna solves a gaping offensive hole for the Breakers after trading Sydney Leroux to Seattle, but Boston coach Tom Durkin will need to curb De Vanna’s league-leading 30 offside calls to maximize the signing.

Sky Blue will receive the second of two first-round picks held by the Breakers before the trade.  They acquired Seattle Reign FC’s first-round pick in the Leroux trade.  A Sky Blue source said the club is working on filling all available international slots but that no signings were imminent at the time of the trade.

Elsewhere, the Western New York Flash and the Washington Spirit made an official swap of their own today, with Veronica Perez heading to the SoccerPlex.  Washington also picked up a fourth-round draft pick in 2015, and in exchange, sent the Flash an extra international roster spot for 2014 and 2015.

Yoreli Rincón of the Colombian national team and LdB Malmö is rumored to be on the move to Rochester, though there are no definitive or official indications she has been signed as of now.

Seattle Reign FC is also rumored to be making another announcement early this week, though it is unclear at this time if it is player related.

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Additional reporting by Dan Lauletta.

  • gerd karl

    no world class get in the nwsl, uswnt player world class, yes,
    but no marta, no lena gößling, no nadine kessler, no necib, no schelin in the nwsl
    rincon play not good in sweden, da vanna won no great title and perez won nothing
    no great player
    natze angerer 35, yes she comes

    • Guest

      I’m not sure if you will see the irony but all those names you listed, only one plays in Germany. How come??

      • gerd karl

        necib, schelin and marta play in germany?
        marta play in sweden for tyresö
        necib play for lyon
        and schelin play for lyon

        how come

        • newsouth

          Rincon hit a bump in the road when that yahoo Rizzo put her up against the USNT in the World Cup at 17 and put the game on her back. That’s not happening against a club of studs, so she gets benched for the rest of the tournament. This is a good deal if they can get her with Lines for 2-3 in WNY. The South American technique is there but she doesn’t have the North American toughness. Make this deal happen, Sahlens.

        • Lala

          How come means why.??? Warum spielen alle diese Frauen in andere Lände, nicht in Deutschland?

          • gerd karl

            marta – no chance in germany, zu arrogant
            necib and schelin playing in two years at bayern münchen
            rincon- wer ist rincon

          • kernel_thai

            Schelin has said she wants to finish her career at Goteborg where it began.

    • kernel_thai

      Please list all the World Cup and Olympic titles won by the players on ur list. It shouldnt take long.

      • gerd karl

        natze angerer- 2 world champion titel, 5 european champion titel, champions league winner 2005, 2 german champion 2004, 2006 , 3 german cup 2004, 2005, 2006

        nadine kessler- european champion 2013, 3 german champion 2010, 2011, 2013, german cup 2013, champions league winner 2010, 2013

        lena gößling- german champion 2013, german cup 2013, european champion 2013, champions league winner 2013

        rincon- nothing
        de vanna – nothing
        perez – nothing

        • Ben

          May not mean anything to you but DeVanna just won the Australian cup with the Melbourne Victory. Of course being the Germany troll that you are, you will claim it means nothing because only the Germany title is worth anything.

          • kernel_thai

            DeVanna’s big title is Asian Championships which equates to Euros sortta.

          • gerd karl

            australien cup, good
            but no champions league and no german titel in the best league in the world.

        • kernel_thai

          Angerer…yes. She has two world championships and is a great player. None of the others have done a thing. While it nice to win Euros who do they play against? Not holding world champion Japan. Not holding Olympic champion US. While these are wonderful players, especially Goessling and Necib, they havent won the big title yet. And there is no big title on the club side for anyone to win.

          • Lorehead

            Well, Angerer in 2007 did.

          • kernel_thai

            He discounted Angerer because of her age (35) in his original post.

          • Lorehead

            The beauty of that is that, whatever happens, it can now confirm his preconceptions. If she becomes a star in the NWSL, that proves it’s a joke league because even an old, washed-up player like her is one of its best players. If she does badly there, that proves it’s a joke league because only old, washed-up players like her go there.

          • Lorehead

            Oh, also I note that Angerer is old and washed up when he says there are no world-class players in the NWSL, just USWNT players, but ask him what his list of world-class players has won outside of Europe, and suddenly she’s the only one on it who has.

    • Ben

      And by that same token, which world class players play in the German league if we remove the NT players?

      • gerd karl

        all players of the gwnt are super world class player
        and fischer, ester, jacobson, hagen, lewandowski, cross, schough, hegerberg, mjielde, norstad, jakabfi, ando, tanaka, iwabuchi, anonma, evans, singer, chernogorcevic, and more

        • Ben

          So basically you are naming all the internationals in the German league ignoring the fact that most of them are average or below average and have not done much on the international scene. Carry on

          • gerd karl

            jakabfi – german champion 2013, german cup 2013, champions league 2013
            hegerberg, mjielde, norstad – vice european champion
            ando, tanaka iwabuchi – world champion
            and more and more

    • Steglitz49

      Aya Sameshima in Houston and Nahomi Kawasumi in Seattle (and there is Nanase Kiryu in Sky Blue).

    • guest

      Agreed karl ;-)

    • Rufan

      Why do I when I read your stuff think that its someone pretending to be a German with poor English writing skills? Is this your stand up routine? It is comical how bad it is.

  • wosofan

    We need a Spirit fan to explain this move. I have little idea what their line-up will look like. So many small midfielders. Meanwhile, Aaron Lines stocking up on international players. I’m not sure any college draft picks make their team this season, apart from Wys.

  • kernel_thai

    I find it hard to believe SkyBlue didnt get a player back from Boston for DeVanna. If it’s me I want the 1st rounder plus Jasmine Reeves.

    • Steglitz49

      Is there any player in Boston worth having?

    • Ben

      If SBFC is interested in any of the Boston picks, they just have to wait a bit and when Boston release them (they can’t possible signed the 1 million young forwards they drafted), SBFC can jump right on that.

    • Rufan

      Reading the first paragraph of the story and it sound as if was a case of trade Lisa or she is not coming back to the US. SB got what it could for her.

    • Guest

      DeVanna might not have intended to come back for Sky Blue. If that was the case getting anything at all for her is a good thing. Better get something out of it than nothing.

  • kernel_thai

    Im still confused which pick they got. If they got Seattle’s 1st rounder which Boston got in the Leroux trade then this is a great deal for Boston. If Boston gave up their own 1st round pick which could easily be a top pick, they have traded a really good future player for a one year fix.

    • Steglitz49

      The article claims that Boston got “Lisa De Vanna from Sky Blue FC in exchange for a 2014 international spot and a first-round pick in the 2015 NWSL College Draft”. Whether Ms de Vanna is worth so much is a good question but if no other international player wanted to get into bed with Boston, then their international slot was worthless to them so they might as well get something for it not just discard it.

    • Rdalford

      Article above now clarifies that Sky Blue gets the second (I.e. Lower) of Boston’s two first round picks. So it would appear that Boston retains it’s first (higher) first round pick and therefore is still in the Moe Brian lottery.

      • kernel_thai

        Which is good … u cant mortgage ur future on a one year player.

  • Steglitz49

    Who is the international that Sky Blue wants to acquire? Any ideas? Ramona Bachmann? Aya Miyama?

    • ???

      Aya Sameshima.

      • Steglitz49

        Aya Sameshima signed for Houston. Aya Miyama is Japan’s midfield general, team captain, and penalty & freekick expert. She once played for LA Sol and various other US teams.

        • ???

          Ooops! I meant Aya KAWASAKI.

          • Steglitz49

            not to be confused with Yamaha or Suzuki?

  • whitd10

    So does this mean Sky Blue can aquire two more internationals? DeVanna’s spot would free up one and then the trade adds a second international spot? Or does it just vacate the international spot held by DeVanna?

    • Rdalford

      My understanding is 2 international slots (one previously used for De Vanna and an additional 2014 international slot acquired in the trade).

  • has Spirit made any progress

    Why do I get the feeling that non of the Spirit moves are initiated by them? Maybe the desperation trade with Seattle last season started with DC. I’m struggling to see much benefit to Spirit currently. Maybe they anticipate sending some players off in a follow up deal. A lot was made about DC’s offensive woes last season and time will tell if that area is addressed. However, the team also gave up the most goals. Seems more like a two headed beast needs slaying. I know there is some validity to the couldn’t hold the ball, no goal scoring, players out of position line of reasoning, but truly just as the offense devolved to hope for the best balls the defensive play and tactics will need just as much attention. In another move that causes Spirit fans to scratch their heads in puzzlement the club has named one of the coches fired from their disastrous start in 2013 to lead their Reserve side effectively demoting the coach would led the Reserves to the W league final four where they lost to the eventual champions. Ah, Spirit management you are an odd lot.

    • wosofan

      I’m a little confused by the Spirit. Their coach talks about playing an attractive style, so he’s picking up a lot of these clever players, but I’m still a bit skeptical as to how it is going to work. On a somewhat related note, I wonder which NWSL team will be the first to begin tanking, to try to get Morgan Brian in the draft.

      • Lorehead

        No one. But two days before the draft, the league will announce they’ve switched to a lottery.

    • guest

      I don’t think they’ve done enough to completely turn it around. They’ve addressed some of their problems by bringing in a handful of quality players but I remain skeptical of how that will carry over into a good on field product. They were a disjointed team last year, on and off the field, and it seems like that trend might continue into this season. I don’t see them being the basement team this year but I also don’t see them being one of the top four teams.

    • Guest

      Spirit has the top goal scorer from the Australian w-league coming over (more goals than LDV) and the top draft pick who can close out the speediest forwards. So far way better than anything they had going for them last year and that is just two players. Having a proper forward will do wonders. On top of everything they have a coach with a clue. So don’t go all emo. Most of it is the fact you personally aren’t very familiar with the players yet.

      • progressive Spirit

        How do you know the poster’s familiarity or lack thereof with the players? Or are you just refering to they haven’t played in DC yet? I followed all the Spirit players in the Westfields league and I’ve seen Dunn and Menchel play since they were in high school. I think they’ve improved the team, but feel others have made bigger strides. On paper Skyblue and Boston have regressed badly. I still don’t see a real coherent strategy underpinning the Spirit’s actions. I’ll be there to cheer, but I’m really not impressed with the management from a soccer standpoint.

      • EbaJ

        I think Dunn will be midfielder assuming she is healthy.

  • Steve

    The breakers won’t be that good and De Vanna will miss half of the next two season so pretty nice trade from SBFC.

  • Reality

    Off topic, I know, but I thought it worthwhile to mention. Here is an excerpt of a google translation of a Swedish article…

    “Tyresö ladies risk bankruptcy. Tyresö successful football fairy tale can have an abrupt end. Just three weeks before the quarter-finals of the Champions League , it is revealed that the club have a million debts to the tax – and the threat of bankruptcy…We will apply for reconstruction to get the opportunity to come to grips with these problems , says Hans Lindberg…How has the debt incurred? Partly because we are at the beginning of the season had a sponsorship pledge not realized and partly couse we had extensive costs for the stadium, all of which have led to this situation…The assumption is that we will apply for reconstruction to get working atmosphere and the opportunity to sort out these problems…we still want to retain the sporting goal to win the Champions League.”

    Women’s soccer funding problems are universal.

    • kernel_thai

      Assuming they can continue to meet payroll, I would think any restructuring would drag on past May short of an abrupt “no”.

      • Reality

        They’re trying to be hopeful about that very scenario of restructuring dragging on past May, but it was also mentioned…

        “The same source states that players salaries have not been paid on time. Hans Lindberg does not deny this.”

        • Guest

          After Champions League they will be losing the three Americans which is a chunk of money freed up. I can’t recall if Vero extended her contract either. The team is going to look very different after the break and that includes their financial weight they carry.

          • Reality

            Their financial picture will be eased by the American departure. However, their master plan for the past 5 years since they came up from relegation has been to win the Champion’s League. What happens for them after that is of secondary importance. I could see a scenario where they would hang on fiscally until May when they hopefully win the CL and then declare bankruptcy. It would be the height of irony.

          • kernel_thai

            If they win UEFA CL it should help with sponsors. Hopefully the team survives in some form.

          • Reality

            Much depends for them on surviving through the CL and if possible winning it. Tyreso is the only real competition for the German teams and one of them will assuredly win if Tyreso is forced to withdraw.

          • Steglitz49

            I would not discount the Gunnerettes so readily if I were you. The lady gunners are pretty strong brew.

          • Reality

            Arsenal has lost Kim Little, Stephanie Houghton, Gemma Davison, Ellen White, Katie Chapman, Gilly Flaherty, Ciara Grant and Yvonne Tracy. They are trying to rebuild in time for the CL but it appears they have been weakened by all the departures.

          • Steglitz49

            The Gunners just acquired Ms Kinga and Ohno, so hope springs eternal.

          • Guest

            But shame on them for hiring foreigners? Isn’t that what you usually say? Or is it just for Swedish teams you don’t like?

          • Elaine

            That’s really irony. Would Tyreso have gotten so far into the CL if they had not overspend on foreigners, coaches, and such? Yet because of it, they are in debt and might be bankrupt. Also what are the financial windfalls for teams that do win the CL? Is it enough to entice sponsors to stick with the team?

            In the Deadspin article, the coach of Malmo said,
            “Damallsvenskan can never fold as a league,” he wrote. “If one club would fold, another one would be promoted. Maybe not all clubs would be professional, but the league would always live on.”

            Hence the silver lining it all of this is that Tyreso will be relegated once again and another team will take its place.

          • Reality

            From what I have been reading, it is not an uncommon practice for teams to go into debt as an investment toward winning the CL since there are financial rewards there. It becomes a tricky question with the sponsors as to whether they will continue to invest as a result of victory there. In Tyreso’s case, since the American contingent will no longer be present after the tournament is over, perhaps potential sponsors looked at the projections for future success and thought it may not be worth the investment.

            You are correct that the Damallsvenskan can adjust since relegation is a standard practice. If WUSA and WPS had employed it, perhaps there would have been a different outcome for them. The NWSL should certainly examine that option carefully.

          • Elaine

            But isn’t that the crux of the problem for Tyreso or any team in the Damallsvenskan. Is it only true that unless Americans or other foreigners are on Tyreso or any of the teams in the Damallsvenskan, they have a shot at the CL? If that’s the case, it sure doesn’t bode well unless the teams have financial backings like the Swedish soccer federation.

          • Reality

            In general, when nationalism drives the rules for competition, those countries, such as the U.S., who have the largest talent pool will achieve the best results assuming they make full use of their resources. You can see this principle operating in the Olympics. Smaller countries have done well in the past because they were able to maximize their talent within a given sport. But if the larger country focuses on that sport, they will eventually rise to the top.

            The increased participation by superior American talent in other countries has altered the face of competition especially in Europe. In some ways, it is a zero sum game. If one team has them, they gain an edge forcing the other teams to also obtain them. There are a few exceptions to this rule but it generally holds over time.

            The NT/NWSL recall will change the game somewhat as only those players not considered as NT material will seek positions abroad thus changing the dynamics a bit.

          • Steglitz49

            There is no money in women’s soccer, neither in Europe nor Sweden specifically. Women’s teams must find a paymaster or go to the wall. No-one invests because there is no return on the investment. It is charity, pure and simple.

          • Reality

            I never knew that capitalism was so altruistic. I would suspect that financial profit is not the driving force for investment by sponsors. It probably has more to do with interest, ego and PR. If a team has a poor outlook for winning, interest wanes, ego is not satisfied and PR does not profit by association. Tyreso, however, would benefit from winning the CL prize money

          • Steglitz49

            The direct financial rewards from the Champions league are the current prize-money structure of:
            — €250,000 to the winning team; €200,000 losing finalist; €50,000 losing semi-finalists; and €25,000 losing quarter-finalists.

            VW use the She-wolves in adverts but then VW “owns” Wolfsburg.

          • Elaine

            And what’s the debt of Tyreso?

          • Steglitz49

            If they cannot sort out their finances, UEFA can dismiss them from the Champions League. Watch this space.

          • Lorehead

            Next season, or immediately?

          • Steglitz49

            I do not know. (Presumably next season but not sure.)

          • Reality

            From what I have gathered so far, It appears that their application for “reconstruction”, if granted, will allow them a 3 month window to stabilize their situation which would take them through the CL. If, after that period expires, they are unable to achieve stability, they will be reviewed and either extended or possibly fined and relegated for next season.

    • wosofan

      Further proof that, generally speaking, these women’s leagues in Europe (and in Japan) depend on public funding, in this case, municipal funding. It is a nice fiction to read in Deadspin that Sweden’s league is a model of stability. However, in the US, bankrupt means bankrupt (unless you’re a banker on Wall Street (“too big to fail”), but that’s another topic for another day). In Sweden, they will find public money somewhere to keep this afloat. The attendance figures in Sweden do not support the salaries of players like Marta, so they must rely on public funding.

      A little surprised, though, to hear that players’ salary payments have been missed. I wonder if this is the reason for the recent flurry of player departures from Tyreso. And maybe the four young Brazilians were brought in so that Marta can pay their salaries? Would not surprise me in the least.

      • Reality

        They already applied for municipal funding…

        “According to reports in the newspaper Amid filed Club for a grant from the municipality of 2.7 million, which was refused…

        Is it the economic realities that led to a number of players just are contracted over the spring season ?

        – Yes, we have decided to shorten the contracts.

        You run the risk of going bankrupt ?

        – We have a number of very interesting projects in the pipeline and many sponsors as we hope to cooperate with . We’ll go in goal with these , it’s no problem.”

        This sounds pretty serious. They will need some private capital coming in.

        • wosofan

          Private loan insured by a governmental entity, I’m betting. They are operating on a different economic model. I’d love to see a true accounting of each Swedish team, to see how they stay afloat.

          • Reality

            The dark art of accounting becoming transparent?

          • Steglitz49

            There is nothing mysterious here. Women’s soccer does not earn enough to be professional. Teams with adequate attendance like Portland are the exceptions, not the rule.

            Women playing soccer are kept women. Their activity is subsidized one way or another. They just differ in who is their sugar-daddy.

            It is admirable that teams like Arsenal and Liverpool, Lyon and PSG, Bayern Munich and Barcelona underwrite their ladies, but the women are no doubt painfully aware that they are kept — a bit like team mascots, or worse.

          • gerd karl

            the nwsl is the mascots of the ussf
            2015 is the nwsl doomed.

          • Sydonia

            This comment is very sexist and degrading to the women who play pro football. The biggest whores are pro men, with their jumping from one team to the other mid-season for millions of Euros, and the big pimps who own these teams.

          • Steglitz49

            Entitlement syndrome does not pay the bills. Playing a sport professionally as opposed to as an amateur, means that you earn your living from it. Women’s pro-soccer is like any other product: enough people must buy it to make ends meet. Income must cover expenditure and ideally exceed it, else you starve.

            That male soccer-, NFL-, NBA- and baseball-players can earn a king’s ransom does not help women – except if, like John Terry and the brothers in the NBA, they chip in from their own wallets.

            The profit from women’s matches together with income from sponsors must cover not only the salaries of the players but also their employment costs, health insurance, team travel to away games, coaches’ salaries, front office salaries, training facilities, advertising, etc etc.

            About 10 years ago, Man Utd closed down its ladies’ section. They did not think it was worthwhile. A couple of years ago Chelsea was about to do likewise. Luckily for Chelsea ladies, John Terry got to hear of it and opened his wallet and persuaded some of his teammates to chip in. Chelsea’s ladies section survived, but it was a close shave.

            In June of 2012 Volvo sponsored a small tournament in Sweden between the WNTs of USA, Japan and Sweden. People could watch the world champions, the silver and bronze medalists play one another six weeks before they set off to the Olympics in London. Hardly anyone showed up. The stands yawned empty. During Euro-13, Huyundai were one of the sponsors, providing the cars and transportation for the tournament. Once bitten, Volvo no doubt was shy.

            If no-one pays to watch women play soccer, there is no female pro-soccer.

          • kernel_thai

            Werent u saying last week that Euro 13 was a big success?

          • Steglitz49

            In the number that attended: yes. In the money delivered to UEFA: probably. For the Swedish FA: not (break even at best; a loss more likely).

            I have no memory of ever seeing any published accounts. Has anyone? Please help.

          • Elaine

            I have to ask, what happened to all those Swedish spectators that attended Euro13? Assuming that many fans in Tyreso traveled to the locations where the matches are being played or even watched it on television, why do they not bother to show up at Tyresövallen?

          • Steglitz49

            With difficulty. All hover on the brink of bankruptcy.

            Göteborg has the advantage of the owner of a small soft-drinks and brewery company pumping in money, but that is the only Swedish club that has such support.

            Women’s soccer, at least in Europe, will be a kept woman.

            Some of the wealthy men’s clubs will support their ladies’ section. The girls won’t get fat on their earnings but they will be able to earn their keep. Apart from Real Madrid and Man Utd, most of the rich teams now have ladies sides, while a couple of independents like Potsdam and Frankfurt seem to have enough to get by.

      • Lorehead

        And speaking of where the Thorns’ owner (just appointed to the board of U.S. Soccer) got his money—

        But this is terrible news. To look for a silver lining, Steglitz was complaining there are too many foreign players in Sweden?

        • Steglitz49

          Women’s soccer in Sweden, or anywhere, is not helped by yet another club getting into dire financial straits like Germany’s Duisburg, former winner of the Champions League and where Ashlyn Harris played a season.

          Tyresö’s plight is unexpected. The team was considered to have good finances and be well run. It looks like a repeat of Malmö, except that in Malmö the local government found a plan to fold the ladies into a men’s team to disguise paying off debt.

          At the end of the day, if people do not pay to watch you play, you do not have a professional sport.

          • Lorehead

            Sadly true. And it’s hard to compete profitably with teams that are willing to lose seven-figure sums. For all that I’ve griped about the salary cap, it could be worse.

            When you have a moment, do you think you could explain what’s going on here? From what I can make out, Tyresö Fotboll AB is filing for something called företagsrekonstruktion (reorganization?) in order to avoid konkurs (bankruptcy?), but that can’t be a very literal translation because it will involve writing off their debt. The players will get paid by something called statliga inkomstgarantin (state income guarantee?). But I don’t understand how the system works where you are.

          • Steglitz49

            Not sure. Maybe Jeff can find out for us. Briefly, Sweden like most countries have systems for exploring financial reconstruction of companies. In the US its called Chapter XI bankruptcy, much loved by airlines. Sweden seems also to have a system whereby during a very limited time a (small) proportion of your salary can be paid from the public coffers but with considerable restrictions.

            “AB” means that it is a limited company with shares, ie not a charitable trust. Some companies have the AB as part of its name like SAAB and LKAB, while others have it only as the A like ASEA, but most don’t have the AB in their name a bit like anglo-saxon companies do not usually bother with the “Ltd” or “plc”.

          • Reality

            Another aspect of this which is being discussed is that there is a possibility under the rules of the “tävlingsbestämmelsernas Section 21?” (whatever that is), Tyreso would be relegated if they underwent reconstruction. Not a lot of good here.

          • Steglitz49

            That is pretty standard in European soccer leagues. Depending on how bad your finances are you get relegated at least one divison but if you are considered bankrupt, you drop two divisions.

            Guenther Netzer-Kant can explain it better than I, but that is the gist of it.

            I like the team salary ceiling. It seems designed for women’s pro-soccer, though was developed by Pete Rozelle for the NFL (I think).

          • Reality

            If they do become relegated, they will automatically lose their place in the next CL cycle. It would seem that this year will be their last chance for some time to come assuming they can maintain their place.

            I would be curious to know how many countries have adopted a team salary ceiling.

          • Steglitz49

            As far as I know, no league outside north-America uses a team salary ceiling.

            Given how little money is needed for women’s soccer, it is surprising that sponsors are not queuing up to help. Those managing women’s pro-soccer’s business side seem to be away with the fairies.

            Blatter got criticized for his advise to women about playing in more feminine and form-hugging attire yet for individual players the body-paint and fold-out route to the fleshpots has worked more than fine.

            Let’s trust that the NWSL can find a path through the jungle into sunlit uplands, where women’s pro-soccer can lie down with the snow-leopard, them purr in unison.

          • Lorehead

            Australia’s W-League has one, and so does England’s FAWSL. So maybe it’s an Anglo-Saxon thing.

          • Steglitz49

            I thought that the English had taken a leaf out of USSoccer’s book and paid their NT members from a central fund. As for the individual clubs, there may well be a ceiling but is it a real ceiling or a gentlemen’s agreement, like the one about not signing foreigners?

            Liverpool Ladies had Whitney Engen, while Chelsea had Yuki Ogimi and Sofia Jakobsson. Yuki moved from Potsdam to Chelsea. One would expect her to earn a wee bit more than Whitney.

          • Lorehead

            My understanding is that both are real ceilings, but with loopholes for a certain number of players per team, and also NT salaries on top.

          • gerd karl

            duisburg is not bankrupt
            the fcr duisburg played as msv duisburg in the german 1.bundesliga

            and bad neuenhar is not bankrupt
            bad neuenhar played in the second german bundesliga

            the liabilities are paid.

          • Guenther Netzer-Kant

            Fcr Duisburg and Sc 07 bad neuenahr are both bankrupt.
            stick to the truth!

            The rights for playing Bundesliga resp. Second League have been transferred to Msv Duisburg resp Sc 13 bad neuenahr

          • gerd karl

            oh please, duisburg and bad neuenhar not bankrupt
            duisburg played in the german bundesliga and bad neuenhar in the second german bundesliga

            in germany have the football clubs no tax liabilities, this is dfb rules.

            one has too little sponsors then you have to join another club or because newly founded club.

            STICK TO THE TRUTH.

          • Guenther Netzer-Kant

            Msv Duisburg is not bankrupt
            Fcr Duisburg is bankrupt

            In case this is too difficult and too complex for you, you may rather continue to list all the titles Germany and Wolfsburg won in the recent years

          • gerd karl

            american brain is not good, so many fracking and chemie

          • Guenther Netzer-Kant

            As usual the issue behind the issue is the desire to get more than you should aspire for. In order to reach self defined goals risks are ignored and future expectations are evaluated to optimistically.

            Following this approach teams like Malmö and Tyresö are struggled or needed to be bailed out and others failed (Duisburg, Neuenahr, WUSA, WPS)

            Turbine Potsdam is so far a good example of of how you could remain relatively successful without buying big stars which you can not afford to buy. (and that’s the reason I am supporting them in the CL – Tyresö is exchanging / hiring / selling players like crazy the last three years – I do not like the approach at all)

            In terms of the NWSL I can only recommend to stick to the approach of having a healthy league. But when reading here the comments I get the impression that the most important goal is not to have a healthy league but the best league in the world. In case Officials follow the same “instinct” mistakes may be repeated

          • Tom F

            Tyreso had as much as 11 foreign/internationals on their team last season. Sponsorship was only going to get them so far.

            Agreed with Potsdam, with 3 forwards including a classic winger in Evans,they’re one of the most attractive(style) teams to watch. But oh, those hot blonds(Elsig, Simic & Hegeberg) really help!

            Despite hardly any German NT’s, their living cozy in 2nd place(one point below Frankfurt in league standings). Meanwhile Woflsburg fallen 4 points behind at 3rd

          • Ben

            Agree with this.

            With respect to NWSL, I think the ultimate goal is to be the best in the world but I won’t read too much into that it’s something everyone says regardless of sport or professional. It’s like a singer proclaiming they want to be the best blah blah blah

          • kernel_thai

            I think a key piece in the NWSL staying the course while providing a top product is young internationals. Instead of trying to pay the current top players in the world they need to bring in young up and coming INT players. They may eventually lose them to teams who can pay big contracts buts that’s ok as long as they continue to do a good job bringing in the best young talent.

          • Lorehead

            On the one hand, debt-financed expansion is how most companies get started. On the other, Europe really seems to have a problem with football clubs spending far more money than they can sustain, shooting for the Champions’ League, and then crashing.

            I’m not pretending I’ve done a thorough investigation to back this up, but my gut tells me that nobody’s going to compete head-to-head with Lyon and PSG and make a profit. Their women’s teams have to be losing millions of dollars, and the owners don’t care.

          • Steglitz49

            The wealthy clubs hardly notice what they spend on their ladies. That is why people were annoyed at Man Utd when they closed their girls section.

            The ladies teams lose money but one gets the impression that the FAs are responding to political pressure. Essentially, either voluntarily throw your ladies and girls some crusts of bread and rinds of cheese — or we will legislate so you have to. Just do it. And they seem to be.

          • Steglitz49

            It is impressive how Germany has steadily built up their ladies league while the Swedish one has gone in the opposite direction during the last decade or so.

            What is it with Potsdam that makes it work? It can’t just be that Potsdam is a pleasant suburb of Berlin, nor that the club somehow managed to start and function in the DDR. One assumes that they have an active local base, a family for want of a better word. Many clubs round Europe do, but Potsdam is in a league of its own. Long may it last.

      • Lorehead

        In fairness to the Deadspin article, it was written by an old college teammate of Christen Press on her vacation to visit her in Sweden. The author doesn’t even speak the language, and her sources tell her they never really learned it either and get by in English.

        It therefore does tell us something important, and that’s that the American players had no idea what was really going on behind the scenes.

        • Steglitz49

          Marta learnt the local lingo as an 18-years old.

          • Lorehead

            And that’s great for her. I mean that without any sarcasm. She has to be one of the few people on Earth who’s chosen to learn
            Swedish over English as her second language, and it’s apparently working out for her, but it’s especially difficult for me to understand why she made that choice given her American teammates’ claims that they get by just fine in Sweden knowing only English.

            Allison McCann never quoted her as a source for the Deadspin article, which I think demonstrates my point. Deadspin titled her article “Can Women’s Pro Soccer Work In America? An Investigation, In Sweden,” but that’s not what it is, because McCann was an American who talked only to other Americans in Sweden and to the same English-speaking Swedes those monolingual Americans got all their information from. And it turns out that they were living in a bubble this whole time.

            If you look at the history of U.S. foreign policy, this kind of over-reliance on the English-speaking, foreign-educated elites of other countries happens a lot.

          • Steglitz49

            If you want to be part of the local community, you have to learn the local language, otherwise you exclude yourself.

            Of course, you can get by with English. You won’t starve. You can pay at the supermarket check-out with your card. You can buy train-tickets on the web. That is existence.

            Without Swedish you could not have followed the winter olympics, unless you could have found a transmission in a lingo you understand. The French coverage was excellent. The British a bit comme ci comme ca but at least they covered stuff the Brits found interesting. You pays your money and you makes your choice.

            Without Swedish, you would not have followed interviews with Charlotte Kalla where she tried to explain why she chased down that final leg. Likewise, the interviews with Marit and Therese in Norwegian, that aren’t translated because Swedes get the gist of what they say.

            Why Marta bothered, I do not know. Maybe her innate compass of what mattered.

          • Lorehead

            Good point. I don’t have any experience of life in Sweden.

          • Reality

            Rumor has it that Marta wants to attain Swedish citizenship which is permissible for her by both Brazil and Sweden so that may explain her desire to be fluent in Swedish and also maintain a residency requirement there.

          • Lorehead

            I would be shocked if she wanted to use her one-time switch to play for the Swedish NT, but not if she wanted to become a dual citizen.

          • Reality

            It is just dual citizenship as her heart is with Brazil…

            http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=2285005/index.html

          • Steglitz49

            She learnt Swedish when she came as an 18-year old to play for Umeå. She stayed 5 years in Sweden before going to the US. Speaking the local lingo brings you into the community. You also need to learn a few put-downs to use at the disco.

          • wosofan

            This is the same Allison McCann who was shocked and disappointed to learn that players in the WPS were not treated as well as college players were treated when playing for institutions with billion-dollar endowments (e.g., Stanford University). She was shocked that the WPS was less professional than Pac-12 soccer. That’s a bit naive, I’d say. I wonder if she ever realized the extent to which big-time women’s college soccer is not self-funded.

          • Lorehead

            The Disqus bug that makes all guest posts appear to be from the same person is striking again. I didn’t think you sounded like Gerd Karl.

          • wosofan

            Hey, McCann wrote a tearful opinion piece a few years ago, for some sports website, bemoaning the fact that the WPS did not come close to how well she was treated at Stanford. She more or less confessed that she was shocked by how different the experiences were, and it made her want to quit the WPS. I think she said that Stanford ruined her future expectations for women’s soccer (i.e., nothing could ever measure up).

            Notably, her piece did not compare the finances, or business models, of the institutions/owners behind the WPS or Stanford University. Now, she has written a piece holding up Tyreso and the European leagues as something that NWSL should aspire to. There is a tone of criticism in the Deadspin piece, that Christen has been more or less compelled to return to the slums (the NWSL).

            I think she wrote this partly because her bffs have enjoyed playing in Sweden so much. Again, her piece did not delve into how Tyreso (formerly a tiny club) is on the doorstep of the Champions League Final, or how Malmo could’ve gotten all these players on their roster.

          • Lorehead

            McCann does seem to have picked up the same idealized view of the Damallsvenskan that you read on Christen Press’ blog (although, if she’s happy there, she’s happy there). Press makes it clear that she loves being in Sweden for personal reasons, though. (It’s none of my business, but I do still wonder what she meant about her heart being in Sweden now. I guess we’ll see if anyone follows her to Chicago.)

            On the other hand, since her team just went into bankruptcy, U.S. Soccer forcing her to sign with Chicago seems to have been a blessing in disguise. Also, if anyone had any thoughts about spending five consecutive years in Sweden and applying for a one-time switch, and I’m not saying they did, U.S. Soccer is not letting that happen.

          • Guest

            Press would not have a problem finding a job now if TFF went under. If she was out of TFF and available on the free market and looking for employment she would not be going to Chicago. She is not lucky with Chicago at all.

          • Steglitz49

            The lady probably does not speak Swedish, in which case she is excluded from the community. Winkling out the nuggets of information that breaks open a story is linguistically beyond her. She has to trust what people tell her in English.

            Noone disdains honest money. Women’s clubs struggle on but, as has been noted before, the entry of wealthy owners into the ladies field is rapidly changing the landscape for women’s soccer in Europe.

            Commentators on the Equalizer have been busy arguing for more MLS involvement in the NWSL. That is happening in Europe but the male teams are called Arsenal, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Wolfsburg, Liverpool, Lyon, PSG … zzz. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

        • Reality

          This would be an incredible disappointment for the American players if Tyreso had to drop out of the CL. Given the current circumstances of the requirements for playing on the NT, this may be a last window for them to have a rare opportunity to participate, and even more unusual, to possibly be on a winning team. I hope that the funding situation is stabilized as this would not only an be an unfortunate for them and Tyreso but also another bad omen for women’s soccer.

          • Steglitz49

            There is another aspect to this. A year ago, at the very last moment Tyresö acquired Christen Press from Göteborg. As a result, Gbg had to play their Champions League QF without their striker. They lost but neutral observers would contend, that with Christen Gbg would have prevailed. Granted, they would (probably) have lost in the SF, but at least their players would have had the satisfaction of playing in a CL SF. Also, with Christen in the squad last season might have gone better for Gbg than it did.

            Christen came to Gbg when she was out of a job with the folding of the last US league. We now know that Tyresö has “afforded” its foreign mercenaries by living high on the hog. It seems a tad unfair to the teams that struggle but manage their finances. The NWSL approach, with team salary ceilings and central funding of some of the NT players, looks more enlightened and just by the minute.

            Maybe UEFA should grasp the opportunity to statuate an example along the lines of “executing an admiral from time to time so as to encourage the others”.

          • Reality

            Goteborg could have retained Press if they were willing like Tyreso to let her have release time to play with the USWNT. They refused and thereby lost her services.

            According to the narrative so far, Tyreso lost a critical sponsor and failed to secure some others. They took a risk in the hope of achieving excellence as opposed to settling for mediocrity. Now they will have to pay the price. Unfortunately the players and the fans will also.

          • Steglitz49

            Lost a critical sponsor as in never had them onboard in the first place?

            That Lyon and PSG, Wolfsburg and Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona can outspend Göteborg is up to them because they are wealthy. The NWSL, having taken a leaf from the NFL’s book, tackle the inequity through the team salary ceiling. But, if a team can spend recklessly and thereby steal a march on a competitor (including the star player they brought over and developed), it does not seem like cricket.

            No-one wept for Malmö when they ended up in financial trouble but at least they had the political nous to get a solution so that the women’s team survives, at least for now. Time will tell what help Tyresö will get but at the moment it does not look like the good burghers are keen to help.

            Honesty is the best policy.

          • Reality

            According to Tyreso’s official press release, “2013 season began with a former sponsor’s promise that did not materialize.” They apparently were already on board and failed to continue.

            Women’s soccer is a hunger game and a competitive market. We will see how the NWSL experiment works out. While I do not blame Tyreso for taking reasonable risks, it is hard to assess to what degree they were reckless. I do blame them for not being more transparent to the players and fans as to the amount of risk assumed. As you said in a previous comment, “Tyresö’s plight is unexpected. The team was considered to have good finances and be well run.”

            I await further information and hope that for the sake of the players and the fans, the fiscal situation will be stabilized.

          • wosofan

            An editorial in a Swedish paper refers to Malmo in 2012, and Tyreso in 2013, as being guilty of “financial doping.” That seems to me what is going on here — Marta is very expensive. To try to stem the losses, they’ve had to let go of Van de Ven, Hermoso, etc. And they just brought in four young Brazilians, who are likely just taking some money from Marta on the side, and she’s probably paying for their living expenses.

            Also, anyone who thinks any of these top European teams get by, purely on sponsorships and ticket sales and television revenue, is completely mistaken. They are not independently viable in a private market. These top teams are subsidized by public money, and by wealthy mens pro teams. If Tyreso has only 1200 fans in attendance on average (as has been reported), that does not come close to balancing the budget. And so with PSG, Arsenal, LFC, and now Man City Ladies, they are all charities of a sort — they are not earning back every Euro invested in those clubs on an annual basis. (Hell, even lower-ranked men’s teams are in debt and depend on league-wide shared revenue from TV, etc.)

            Meanwhile, in Germany, their federation heavily subsidizes their entire pro league (just as USSF and CSA are subsidizing the NWSL).

          • Reality

            It is unfortunate what women’s soccer has done to survive much less thrive. For a more in-depth response to your comment, see my reply to Lorehead re: relegation and matters fiscal.

          • Steglitz49

            What don’t you get? Göteborg is not a wealthy club. They do not have the strength in depth to allow one of their very top players to swan off outside of FIFA windows.

            Now we know why the other club could afford to be accommodating. They spent money they did not have. Now the ghost of bankruptcy knocks on the door. Not so fun.

            In some ways I hope that UEFA dismiss Tyresö from the current CL and either give the Austrian team a walk-over, or reinstate PSG. Justice must not just be done but it must be seen to be done.

          • Reality

            What don’t you get? Goteborg would have done a lot better by keeping her even if she had to miss 2-3 games. And what does Tyreso releasing Press have to do with spending more money. If she was paid on a per game basis, they would have spent less. In any case, you cloak your satisfaction over this whole situation by indulging in righteous indignation which is only a mask for your constant diminishment and ill wishes toward Press.

          • Steglitz49

            Good grief. Are you purposely obtuse?

            Teams in Damallsvenskan play 22 games. If the 2-3 games Christen had missed according to you — 10-15% of their matches — were against important teams, Gbg would have been playing with a weaker side and risked doing badly.

            Tyresö could afford to let Christen swan off because they could afford to have a stronger squad than Gbg. The fact that that was built on smoke and mirrors, sand and funny money is not Christen’s fault. She did what she thought was best for her.

            We will never know how Gbg’s season might have been but I hope that the Swedish FA and UEFA use this golden opportunity to strike while the iron is hot and put a marker in the sand. Honest money, please.

          • Reality

            Good grief to you. Obtuseness is in the eyes of the beholder. Goteborg was 9-6-7 last year without Press.

            Yes, they would have done better with her as she only had to miss 2 games last year because of NT obligations. Let’s split the difference and say one game was against a worthy opponent and the other against a weak one. It would have cost Goteborg one game in the lost column whereas her absence from the team cost them appreciably more.

            Your effort to turn this into a morality play is facile at best. I suggest patience before a rush to judgement while we discover what the future holds.

          • wosofan

            I read an editorial where a critic of Tyreso says they are guilty of “financial doping” in 2013. That seems to be what’s happened. Unfair extra advantage. On the Champions League stage, I wonder how their total salary spending compares to PSG, Arsenal, Lyon, Potsdam, Wolfsburg, etc.

          • Steglitz49

            Potsdam is a well run but not wealthy club. Arsenal and Wolfsburg have not been over generous to their ladies. PSG and Lyon before them have spend money, but it was money they had.

            Nine million live in Sweden, about the same as in Austria. Desabring Tyresö and letting that Austrian team through to the SF is even Stevens. The PR final would be Arsenal vs Potsdam, though Wolfsburg would do. UEFA may relish the sledgehammer where a nutcracker might suffice.

          • Lorehead

            Wouldn’t that make their star American player glad she went to the mat to be able to stay in Sweden as long as Tyresö was in the CL. After all those philosophical musings about the meaning of Win or Go Home, turns out it was out of her control all along.

          • Steglitz49

            Staying in Gbg, helping to win the QF and then play well in the SF, would have been quite neat. Helping Gbg do well again, priceless. For everything else, there are greenbacks.

            Christen helped Gbg retain the Swedish cup. They defeated Tyresö to do it. Tyresö with Christen did not win the league. Now Tyresö is about to play its QF in the Champions League, that is unless UEFA chucks them out …

            Staying in Gbg might have been a good option, all things considered. Loyalty.

          • Reality

            Enough with the platitudes. Goteborg should have been more accommodating to her if they truly valued her services. Press’s primary goal has always been playing on the USWNT. Staying in Goteborg would have prevented her from achieving that. It would have been no skin off their nose to grant the release time and indeed as it turned out it would have been in the team’s best interest. Tyreso saw that simple fact and offered her the desired contractual clause.

          • Guest

            They were paying with sponsors. Like they do with Marta. In this case now a sponsor didn’t pay them. End of story.

            You read into things too much. Your repetition of the Christen Gbg story is almost a publishable length. Despite how many times you bring it up Press did nothing wrong and neither did the clubs. Had Gbg allowed her to leave more often for NT duty she might have been with them. That didn’t work for them or her so they parted ways. Contract things like that happened. Had she stayed with them and failed to attend NT camps what would you be saying now? Stupid Press. Should have signed with a team that would allow for such things.

          • Lorehead

            I don’t know what the rules are for a soccer club going into bankruptcy, but would they only be relegated next season, if by then they still exist?

          • Reality

            Did some research and found out how unstable soccer for both men and women has been over the years in terms of financial health. There have been numerous financial problems across a wide range of teams and countries. So much so, that UEFA established the “Financial Fair Play Regulations” in an attempt to stabilize the situation…

            http://www.uefa.com/community/news/newsid=2064391.html

            Have not yet found info on how relegation would work but I did find an intriguing clue as to Tyreso’s financial dilemma. Alva Nilsson, who is a Swedish soccer reporter, noted on her twitter re: Tyreso that, “Last year, the club wrote a sponsorship deal with Priority Financial, they called it “The biggest contract signed in the Swedish women’s football”. Perhaps this was the sponsorship that fell through. If so, it may have represented an excessive reliance on a single funding source although it would have been hard to turn the financing down.

        • Guest

          The Deadspin article simply meant that the league would go on if a team went under. Which is completely true. If TFF went under another team would be promoted. The idea that their league could be drug down in the fashion the US versions have two times now is impossible with how their league is set up.

          • Lorehead

            Jonas Eidevall did say that, but Allison McCann in her own words said, “The Damallsvenskan, by contrast, is a picture of small-time stability.”

      • Guenther Netzer-Kant

        Disagree. How many leagues do exist in Europe? Just cause one league in Europe is using public funding is no proof at all. I am not aware of the German, the French, the English, the Austrian, the Dutch leagues, etc are dependent on public funding

    • gerd karl

      marta is the problem, too much content, 1000 000 dollar per year
      and no title 2013

      and the american mercenary, stick around 3 months and then go back
      marta have no chance in germany

  • Rufan

    Why am I confused about De Vanna leaving SB? Yes there were those comments by Lisa last Sep. but that was the last I can remember reading about her possibly not coming back. All I had read was that the Australians possible coming late to the ’14 season (due to the Asian Cup?), but most recently even that reportedly was not the case.
    So now she is willing to come back to the US but only to Boston? What am I missing? Money?, Red Sock fan?, tired of the Jersey Shore? Tired of Jim?

    • Rdalford

      Only a guess. Perhaps Boston agreed to the Australian NT desire to have Australian players only report to NWSL in late May after Asian Cup WC qualification. Or perhaps … ?

      • Lorehead

        Bet you the Matildas are teaming up with Gothenburg to troll U.S. Soccer.

        • Steglitz49

          Do you mean “troll” or “trawl”? Maybe a troll-crawl through the Atlantic seaboard?

          • Lorehead

            It doesn’t work if I have to explain it, but: remember how a certain player whose name I forget because it never comes up here left Göteborg for Tyresö because it was more accommodating to her national team?

          • Steglitz49

            They could afford to be more accommodating. Now we know why. A level playing field is all that we ask, like unbiased alert referees. Too much to ask?

          • Lorehead

            Or, more precisely, they couldn’t afford to be.

          • Steglitz49

            Let’s give the team management the benefit of the doubt. At the time they were probably unaware of the financial issues, so likely acted in good faith. Let’s hope so, anyway.

          • Lorehead

            Their story is apparently that they were counting on a sponsor who didn’t pay them?

    • Steglitz49

      Maybe she has a love interest in Boston?

      • LDV

        Maybe not.

        • Steglitz49

          I am romantically inclined. What other reason to move to Beantown? Love of beans?

  • Ashley

    Huh. Sky Blue better have a plan then, now they really need someone to help Maya Hayes up top. Never have been a Sky Blue fan – aside from Foord, DeVanna and Cameron, who was impressive in her rookie year, nothing about the team is particularly exciting – but I am interested to find out who this international signing could be.
    Aside from our resident troll (not sure why anyone keeps responding to him, that’s obviously what he wants), my biggest pet peeve on these boards is when people go off on completely unrelated tangents. Now there’s like 40 comments below that are not about the trade or the two teams in the trade in any way. Sigh, ok rant over…..

    • Steglitz49

      Your point about irrelevance is well taken but to be fair to Reality, he started by clearly labelling his comment as “Off Topic”. Nevertheless, it caught the imagination of some commentators. Also, it is not an altogether trivial discussion point.

      As for the trolls, they have had a bad press down the ages in the children’s stories and illustrations. More research is needed on trolls, not least whether they suffer ACL-tears and if so, whether trollettes run a higher risk than male trolls. Meanwhile, trollololololl!

    • kernel_thai

      Hard to find scorers period but they have two empty INT slots to try and find one. U have to wonder if the SkyBlue – Red Bulls deal had happened if Horan would have returned home to play for Sky Bulls.

      • Guest

        Nope. Horan has to get as much money as she can since she took the European route rather than the US college system route. Even Red Bull can’t pay someone over the cap. She is going to think like a European forward when it comes to contracts and NWSL still can’t afford real non subsidized forwards. Until she is making USWNT money she’ll stay in Europe, take some classes, and make money.

  • SBFan

    Got to admit I was taken by surprise by this move. Sky Blue has now only one proven forward that played NWSL or for that matter in either of the two prior leagues in the US or on any team in Europe – Ocampo – and she didn’t see the starting lineup until injuries gave her the opportunity for more playing time. Filigno and Hayes are college players still to be tested at the professional level and while expectations are high for them they still have to produce at that level. Heck, Filigno who has international experience with Canada and is one of their allocated players was left off their team playing in Cyprus. As for Kiryu, well if I recall an earlier posting on this site, she hasn’t been able to make her national team. Is Foord slated to be moved up and play forward as she did in the Australian league; or, is O’Hara expected to play forward and forgo defense in opposition to her national team aspirations? Both unproven tests. Not getting a warm feeling over all of this.

    • Reality

      One can’t help but wonder whether the Red Bull deal might have proved more beneficial to Sky Blue than the current situation.

      • Lorehead

        Who can pretend that it would not have benefited the team? The argument is over whether it benefited the owners.

        • NYRick

          So true. Water under the bridge right now. But as we can see from the financial issues that WoSo has in general, and per the latest reports from Tyreso…when you have a big fish willing to play you can’t just toss them back into the water like a guppy.

          • Lorehead

            It’s a problem with the structure of the NWSL that the owners of Sky Blue could. Beyond those pragmatic concerns, my moral objection is that the owners are accepting a great deal of subsidies, bailouts and privileges on the theory that it’s not about them personally, they’re just the trustees of a community institution that we should feel good about supporting. But then, when the chips are down, they sell out the stakeholders for their own personal benefit.

          • Guest

            The league is allowing little boutique teams to exist along with MLS teams. Until the bottom is raised in the standards they can function like this.

            That said, I’m not sure the boutique-ness caused the LDV thing. She seemed to want to move and they got as much out of the trade as possible. It was better than nothing. Same thing happened with Syd and Boston. They saw they would lose her eventually anyway and figured out how to get something back for it. Sky Blue got something for LDV and still have room for more signings.

      • SBFan

        No doubt – Red Bull would have been Major League (ie. Portland and I expect Houston) – great fan base and great facility with all around great access to the metropolitan area and North Jersey. Present Sky Blue set up minor league – limited fan base and an ok facility with limited access and absence of marketing (as last year so far).

    • NYRick

      Yeah as a fellow SB fan, I think I’m just as confused as you with this LDV move. At the very least, she bought some excitement into the team. Perhaps there is no woman in the sport who gets more scoring chances based on pure pace than LDV. If the girl ever had the finishing ability of Alex or Press, she would put up 20-25 goals a season in the NWSL.

      I’m thinking that Filigno fits into the plans now as a key striker in their attack. Also, D23 on here reported that Foord was tearing it up as a forward in the Aussie League so maybe that can work as well. I’m with you on KO. I’d prefer if they left her at LB and let her continue to develop her game for the NT. I think she is actually most effective there anyway.

  • C

    So did Sky Blue get the pick Boston got from Seattle or the other pick?